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by Patbar
Mon May 19, 2025 1:20 am
Forum: RP / Pre - 1899
Topic: 1870 Navy framed target 22's
Replies: 3
Views: 234

Re: 1870 Navy framed target 22's

Wow, beautiful gun in great condition !!
by Patbar
Fri May 02, 2025 1:36 am
Forum: RP / Pre - 1899
Topic: Researching a 1878 New Model 32 cal Conversion
Replies: 1
Views: 473

Re: Researching a 1878 New Model 32 cal Conversion

This gun is a New Model Pocket percussion revolver of which around 25,000 units were produced from 1865 to 1873. The value of the converted version is less than the original percussion one.

According to the 2019 edition of the Blue Book of Antique American Firearms and Values, the value of a ...
by Patbar
Fri Apr 04, 2025 1:25 am
Forum: RP / Pre - 1899
Topic: 1858 New model Army
Replies: 5
Views: 550

Re: 1858 New model Army

I'd say that this gun was well pitted and has been very heavily buffed, and even filed.
by Patbar
Thu Jan 02, 2025 2:14 am
Forum: RP / Pre - 1899
Topic: 2025 Gretting Card
Replies: 1
Views: 1868

Re: 2025 Gretting Card

Happy new year to all members of this forum !
by Patbar
Sat Dec 28, 2024 1:35 am
Forum: RP / Pre - 1899
Topic: remington ??
Replies: 7
Views: 2944

Re: remington ??

These unlicensed copies were in fact very numerous. Most of them were made in Spain and Mexico and perhaps other countries.

Here is one, which I'd say is Spanish, that I sold a while ago.
by Patbar
Fri Dec 27, 2024 10:39 am
Forum: RP / Pre - 1899
Topic: remington ??
Replies: 7
Views: 2944

Re: remington ??

You're entirely right Daniel. I just saw the two lines address and didn't look at the rest of the photos.

The worst thing is that I own a double derringer and what's more I have Dr. William H. Elliot's book "Remington Double Deringer". I'd slap myself as I always want to give a rapid answer without ...
by Patbar
Fri Dec 27, 2024 2:33 am
Forum: RP / Pre - 1899
Topic: remington ??
Replies: 7
Views: 2944

Re: remington ??

Your Remington double derringer is the second model, manufactured from 1868 to 1888. 14,000 units of this model were produced (a total more than 150,000 units of the four models were produced).

These little pistols are much sought after by collectors.
by Patbar
Mon Dec 23, 2024 10:05 am
Forum: RP / Pre - 1899
Topic: Remington Smoot n° 2
Replies: 8
Views: 3397

Re: Remington Smoot n° 2

Some members of a French forum suggested that it might be aged bone. So, I heated a nail, applied it to to the underside of one grip and got the characteristic smell of burned bone.

So it seems that my grips are not the original ones. Among the 33 factory engraved Smoots having their serial between ...
by Patbar
Sat Dec 21, 2024 10:06 am
Forum: RP / Pre - 1899
Topic: Remington Smoot n° 2
Replies: 8
Views: 3397

Re: Remington Smoot n° 2

Daniel, the back of these grips can't in any case be wood because I tried to scratch them with a screwdriver and the material is so hard that it didn't leave any trace. Also, the sides show that the grips are made of only one solid material.

Aside animal (what kind ?) ivory, I don't imagine which ...
by Patbar
Sat Dec 21, 2024 2:28 am
Forum: RP / Pre - 1899
Topic: Remington Smoot n° 2
Replies: 8
Views: 3397

Re: Remington Smoot n° 2

Hi Daniel,
Yes, I did the hot pin test and it won't penetrate the material of the grips at all. Yet, it doesn't look like elephant ivory so, I am really unable to say from which animal it can come from.

All I can say is that these grips are perfectly adjusted to the gun and that the escutcheons ...
by Patbar
Wed Dec 18, 2024 5:26 am
Forum: RP / Pre - 1899
Topic: Remington Smoot n° 2
Replies: 8
Views: 3397

Re: Remington Smoot n° 2

Hi Daniel,

As I wrote, I have the original cylinder, which ratchet has been re-cut, which has shortened it a bit, and it will not cycle anymore, reason for it not being mounted on my gun.

Beside, the gun on page 56 of the book that I have has mother of pearl grips and on page 63, it says that 9 ...
by Patbar
Tue Dec 17, 2024 10:30 am
Forum: RP / Pre - 1899
Topic: Remington Smoot n° 2
Replies: 8
Views: 3397

Remington Smoot n° 2

I have a Remington n° 2 Smoot revolver, serial 826, that the deal assured me as being factory engraved. According to the book "A Study of Remington's Smoot Patent & Number Four Revolvers" by Harry J. Parker, Ora Lee Parker and Joan S. Reish, there was only one piece factory engraved and with ivory ...
by Patbar
Fri Dec 13, 2024 10:51 am
Forum: RP / Pre - 1899
Topic: 1858 New Model civilian 2 line address
Replies: 13
Views: 4705

Re: 1858 New Model civilian 2 line address


Hi Hawg,
Maybe. Rem never threw anything away, and if a bunch of cone sights turned up, Rem would probably use them. The Belt Model survey shows that front sights were used after a previous type had been replaced. It's as if Rem didn't follow any kind of rules, and often didn't appear to use ...
by Patbar
Fri Dec 06, 2024 10:53 am
Forum: RP / Pre - 1899
Topic: 1858 New Model civilian 2 line address
Replies: 13
Views: 4705

Re: 1858 New Model civilian 2 line address

Sorry, but this is a replica, not a real Remington. The markings on the barrel are not correct. They should be :

PATENTED SEPT. 14, 1858
E. REMINGTON & SONS, ILION, NEW YORK, U.S.A.
NEW MODEL

on 3 lines, and the font of the characters is not correct either..
by Patbar
Sat Nov 30, 2024 10:52 am
Forum: RP / Pre - 1899
Topic: Model 1858 Navy Identification
Replies: 9
Views: 4304

Re: Model 1858 Navy Identification

Yes, aardq, I know that I used the names given by collectors, and especially those used by Norm Flayderman because these are the names that most people know. My point was simply saying that a "1858 Remington" doesn't point to any particular Remington revolver.

In France, many people buy Italian ...