I agree. I doubt the .50 cents per rifle paid to some sheik caused them to lose money. It might have reduced profits, but surely not enough to hurt them.
Eliphat Remington Jr. was more dedicated to the town and workers than he was to the company, and that caused him issues making financial ...
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- Tue Mar 11, 2025 6:13 pm
- Forum: RR / Pre -1899
- Topic: Identifying a Remington Rolling Block - Possible Early Model 1 1/2?
- Replies: 17
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- Tue Mar 11, 2025 10:18 am
- Forum: RR / Pre -1899
- Topic: Identifying a Remington Rolling Block - Possible Early Model 1 1/2?
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Re: Identifying a Remington Rolling Block - Possible Early Model 1 1/2?
I'll have to look through all my Remington resources to see which mentioned the Winchester relationship. Jerry Landskron's book on Remington pistols has the finest history of the family and company from beginnings to much later. He mentions that a contract with Egypt caused financial difficulties ...
- Mon Mar 10, 2025 8:42 am
- Forum: RR / Pre -1899
- Topic: Identifying a Remington Rolling Block - Possible Early Model 1 1/2?
- Replies: 17
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Re: Identifying a Remington Rolling Block - Possible Early Model 1 1/2?
From what little I've gathered concerning the company's bankruptcy it was bad business decisions made by the brothers. One huge reason was their decision to concentrate on military sales, and then compounding it by not representing themselves in contract agreements with foreign companies. They ...
- Sun Mar 09, 2025 6:12 pm
- Forum: RR / Pre -1899
- Topic: Identifying a Remington Rolling Block - Possible Early Model 1 1/2?
- Replies: 17
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Re: Identifying a Remington Rolling Block - Possible Early Model 1 1/2?
We have a lot to be thankful to Marcellus Hartley as Remington fans. He really took the company from bankruptcy to successful in a very short period. He had the foresight to realize that military sales alone can't keep a firearms maker afloat, and Sporting arms were as important, and sometimes even ...
- Sun Mar 09, 2025 9:03 am
- Forum: RR / Pre -1899
- Topic: Identifying a Remington Rolling Block - Possible Early Model 1 1/2?
- Replies: 17
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Re: Identifying a Remington Rolling Block - Possible Early Model 1 1/2?
Not sure why you think I'm not calm Webb? I thought we were simply having a discussion here, not an argument? The mods done to Rolling Block 1865's were a new trigger guard, breech block, and I doubt any repairs were done on handguns that new. I'd expect some refinishing as the new parts needed to ...
- Sat Mar 08, 2025 9:29 am
- Forum: RR / Pre -1899
- Topic: Identifying a Remington Rolling Block - Possible Early Model 1 1/2?
- Replies: 17
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Re: Identifying a Remington Rolling Block - Possible Early Model 1 1/2?
If you milled off a barrel rollstamp you'd have to mill the entire length of the barrel or end up seeing where you stopped. And if you mill one flat that flat will be wider than the other seven flats. It takes blending it out to make it disappear and not show. And round barrels would take turning in ...
- Fri Mar 07, 2025 10:57 am
- Forum: RR / Pre -1899
- Topic: Identifying a Remington Rolling Block - Possible Early Model 1 1/2?
- Replies: 17
- Views: 3159
Re: Identifying a Remington Rolling Block - Possible Early Model 1 1/2?
Hi There,
Cost of labor was a lot less back then. Plus, I don't think
Winchester or Hartley wanted to promote the previous
owners. The point is, they did it to the tang markings
on the military rifles left in stock.
As to civilian rifles, I am not sure but if they went to this
much trouble ...
- Wed Mar 05, 2025 6:55 pm
- Forum: RR / Pre -1899
- Topic: Identifying a Remington Rolling Block - Possible Early Model 1 1/2?
- Replies: 17
- Views: 3159
Re: Identifying a Remington Rolling Block - Possible Early Model 1 1/2?
I would think that any barrels already rollstamped would have been used up first, and not draw filed to remove the earlier stamp? Then any unstamped barrels would have gotten the new rollstamp. I doubt either way that it would amount to very many barrels if they used up existing stamped barrels ...
- Wed Mar 05, 2025 11:10 am
- Forum: RR / Pre -1899
- Topic: Identifying a Remington Rolling Block - Possible Early Model 1 1/2?
- Replies: 17
- Views: 3159
Re: Identifying a Remington Rolling Block - Possible Early Model 1 1/2?
If this rifle has smooth sides with no step near the top octagon on each side, then it's probably a #1 1/2. The E. Remington & Sons marking tells me it's prior to bankruptcy, and all those rifles had the steel forearm cap, so that's very common for those era rifles. The earliest advertisement for ...
- Sat Jan 25, 2025 10:55 am
- Forum: RR / Pre -1899
- Topic: Help identifying shotgun (I believe).
- Replies: 4
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Re: Help identifying shotgun (I believe).
I also have this shotgun and it is shown in 1870s remington catalogs.seems to be very little info available and I don't know why they did not mark them anywhere when they marked unfinished barrels and locks.if i remember correct they sold for $8.00 and the rolling block shotgun was about $20.00 ...
- Tue Jan 14, 2025 10:20 am
- Forum: RR / Pre -1899
- Topic: Another Rolling Block ID Request
- Replies: 8
- Views: 2629
Re: Another Rolling Block ID Request
The 1/4" all thread sticking out of the front of the action is quite puzzling, and I have no idea why it's there? Likely someone threaded the wiping rod lug to 1/4-2oNC, but why?
The 1/4" all thread was concealed inside the forestock(?) before I took it off to check for more markings on the ...
- Mon Jan 13, 2025 2:16 pm
- Forum: RR / Pre -1899
- Topic: Another Rolling Block ID Request
- Replies: 8
- Views: 2629
Re: Another Rolling Block ID Request
It appears to be a built up gun, and far from original. The 1/4" all thread sticking out of the front of the action is quite puzzling, and I have no idea why it's there? Likely someone threaded the wiping rod lug to 1/4-2oNC, but why?
The barrel appears to be from a 03 Springfield and likely still ...
The barrel appears to be from a 03 Springfield and likely still ...
- Sun Jan 12, 2025 11:14 am
- Forum: RR / Pre -1899
- Topic: Remington Rifle Identification
- Replies: 4
- Views: 1809
Re: Remington Rifle Identification
Here's a picture of the 1903 M. Hartley & Co. 1903 catalog for the three Cadet rifles they sold exclusively. Yours will be the top rifle #205 Model.
https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/y7gAAOSww85ad41O/s-l1600.webp
As you can see the cartridge would be the stubby little .50 Navy cartridge just like ...
https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/y7gAAOSww85ad41O/s-l1600.webp
As you can see the cartridge would be the stubby little .50 Navy cartridge just like ...
- Thu Jan 02, 2025 10:32 am
- Forum: RR / Pre -1899
- Topic: clarification of contract for a model 1 .43 Spanish RB saddle carbine
- Replies: 5
- Views: 2169
Re: clarification of contract for a model 1 .43 Spanish RB saddle carbine
Hi Webb,
Thank you for the correction and additional comments. That it has the wrong breech block for the frame brings up an additional issue. There are several inconsistencies not the least the long chamber length.
Were there any rifles made with saddle rings? That would seem very unusual. Seems ...
- Wed Jan 01, 2025 11:17 am
- Forum: RR / Pre -1899
- Topic: Baby Rolling Block barrel issue
- Replies: 1
- Views: 1261
Re: Baby Rolling Block barrel issue
I doubt the Italians stuck to the same threads as Remington used, and finding an unmolested .44-40 barrel will likely be impossible. I think your best option is to get a .44 barrel blank and have it contoured and threaded to fit your action, and chamber it in .44-40. You'll have a good shooting ...