Model 11 information needed.

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lobotech_e

Model 11 information needed.

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I need info on a shotgun that by all accounts seems to be an Auto-Loader Model 11. Remington approximates its date at around 1908. The barrel is only 20". It is set up with a bayonet mount. There is a bayonet with it and scabbard. Serial # is 718XX. On the barrel is : Manufactured by the Remington Arms Co. Ilion N.Y. USA. Browning patents Oct 8 1900, Dec 17 1901, Sept 3 1902, Jun 16 1903. There are no ordinance marks. The weapon shows no signs of being modified after manufacture. The bayonet is stamped US on one side, and 1913 on the opposing side. By all accounts it should be a WW1 trench gun, but I can find absolutely no information regarding this weapon.
Mike Strietbeck

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From - REMINGTON - America's Oldest Gunmaker by Roy Marcot...

Browning Automatic Shotgun

Arguably the most famous of Browning’s designs were the Browning Automatic Shotgun and Browning Autoloading Rifle, patented in 1900, 1901, 1902 and 1903. It has been said that after being rebuffed by Winchester, Browning traveled to New York City to show his gun to Marcellus Hartley, President of Remington Arms Company. As the story goes, on January 8, 1902, while the Browning brothers were in the waiting room, Hartley died and the inventors carried off their prototype autoloading rifle and shotgun and sailed to Europe to meet with F.N. officials. The deal was signed whereby Fabrique Nationale could produce and market the autoloading Browning shotguns throughout the world, except in the United States. Manufacturing began in earnest in the summer of 1903, and the first 5-shot, 12 gauge Browning Automatic Shotgun was shipped by F.N. on September 17, 1903.
Returning to America, Browning was unsuccessful in establishing a manufacturing and marketing concern on his own, and turned to the new head of M. Hartley & Company, Marcellus Hartley Dodge, grandson and successor to Marcellus Hartley. Dodge willingly accepted Browning’s proposal and Remington Arms Company of Ilion, New York began making Browning guns. The first successful autoloading shotgun in America was fabricated in Ilion in 1905, and the first successful autoloading rifle came out the following year.
Browning’s shotguns were initially advertised as Remington Autoloading Guns, and the 1906 Remington Arms Company catalog listed the following variations: No.1 Standard Grade for $40ºº, No.2 Special Grade for $50ºº, No.3 Trap Grade for $50ºº, No.4 Tournament Grade for $70ºº, No.5 Expert Grade for $100ºº, No.6 Premier Grade for $150ºº, and No.0 Riot Grade for $40ºº. This gun would be renamed the Remington Model 11 Autoloading Shotgun in 1911.
Browning’s autoloading shotgun utilizes recoil to extract and eject the fired case, reload a new cartridge into the chamber, closes and locks the breech, and cocks the hammer. The shotgun barrel actually recoils back. Utilizing an adjustable friction brake and shock absorber, in the 1900s this gun was adaptable to a variety of smokeless powder and black powder loads. This sporting shotgun was produced in 12 gauge exclusively for many years; 20 gauge was added in 1931 and 16 gauge was added the following year.
In only its first six years of production, Remington Arms Company sold a phenomenal 277,722 Browning shotguns, making this the most successful firearm yet manufactured by the 94-year old company. Eventually, Remington would manufacture over 850,000 Model 11 autoloaders through 1948.

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