Hello everyone,
I recently came into possession of what appears to be a Remington rifle cane in .22 rimfire. The firing mechanism and ferrule design seem to be just like the Thomas Day patent came guns I've seen on the Internet. The weird thing is the cane head is a golden knob, whereas the Remington canes had dog heads or curved hooks.
Do I have a modified original, a special order or some sort of copy? I would very much appreciate any and all information available. Thank you!
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Remington No.1 Rifle Cane?
Remington No.1 Rifle Cane?
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Re: Remington No.1 Rifle Cane?
Hi Mr. Panda,
I am far from an expert on the car guns, but four things stand out, stick out is more like it.
1) the Remington cane guns did not have two parts that screwed together.
2) the ferrule looks like thick, brass, and Rem used thinner sheet metal to make the ferrules.
3) the cane has a number at the tip. Rem never numbered their cane guns.
4) Rem canes don't have a push button. Is it the "trigger"? If so, Rem canes had a hidden trigger that pops out.
A couple more things that don't seem right. The body of the cane is threaded and the Rem canes were not two piece which unscrewed, and they were made out of Gutta Percha, which was brittle, and the threads could easily be damaged.
As you noted, the knob is large and brass, unlike anything that Rem made, but Rem would make anything on special order if you paid for it. But, large, heavy knobs like that were often on canes so the cane could be swung like a bat. A Gutta Percha cane was too brittle to use as a club.
Hopefully Mike Streitbeck or another cane expert will join in and tell us all the differences between
this one and a real Remmie cane gun. Including any mistakes that I made.
Have Happy New Year,
Daniel
I am far from an expert on the car guns, but four things stand out, stick out is more like it.
1) the Remington cane guns did not have two parts that screwed together.
2) the ferrule looks like thick, brass, and Rem used thinner sheet metal to make the ferrules.
3) the cane has a number at the tip. Rem never numbered their cane guns.
4) Rem canes don't have a push button. Is it the "trigger"? If so, Rem canes had a hidden trigger that pops out.
A couple more things that don't seem right. The body of the cane is threaded and the Rem canes were not two piece which unscrewed, and they were made out of Gutta Percha, which was brittle, and the threads could easily be damaged.
As you noted, the knob is large and brass, unlike anything that Rem made, but Rem would make anything on special order if you paid for it. But, large, heavy knobs like that were often on canes so the cane could be swung like a bat. A Gutta Percha cane was too brittle to use as a club.
Hopefully Mike Streitbeck or another cane expert will join in and tell us all the differences between
this one and a real Remmie cane gun. Including any mistakes that I made.
Have Happy New Year,
Daniel
Re: Remington No.1 Rifle Cane?
Dan,
This is a friendly correction to your comments.
The canes did have the breach which was exposed by unscrewing the upper handle shaft allowing the cartridge to be inserted.
The Remington ferrule is steel and most of them were serial numbered. They were also marked on the barrel jst below the breach,
however the gutta percha did not hold them well. To fire the cane the handle shaft was pulled back and the button was the trigger.
I am confident this is an original #1 (22rf) Remington cane that has been modified by replacing the original handle and adding the
gold rings to reinforce the fragile gutta percha, which had a tendency to crack at the joint. Other canes with replaced non-Remington
heaIds are known. I can't say this isn't a special order, but my guess is that it'It appearss an after market modification.
It appears to be well done and it looks very nice.
This is a friendly correction to your comments.
The canes did have the breach which was exposed by unscrewing the upper handle shaft allowing the cartridge to be inserted.
The Remington ferrule is steel and most of them were serial numbered. They were also marked on the barrel jst below the breach,
however the gutta percha did not hold them well. To fire the cane the handle shaft was pulled back and the button was the trigger.
I am confident this is an original #1 (22rf) Remington cane that has been modified by replacing the original handle and adding the
gold rings to reinforce the fragile gutta percha, which had a tendency to crack at the joint. Other canes with replaced non-Remington
heaIds are known. I can't say this isn't a special order, but my guess is that it'It appearss an after market modification.
It appears to be well done and it looks very nice.
Re: Remington No.1 Rifle Cane?
Hi Chuck,
Boy, did I show my ignorance of the canes guns. I'm still trying to scrub all the egg off of my face! Thank you for jumping in and giving the correct info. I may have examined 8-10 in my lifetime and this one was very different from all the others. I don't remember any of them having any numbers, by then some of my memory cells are still out on vacation.From about 2010 or so.
Mr. Panda,
My apologies for my reply. I should stick to the pistols and stay away from everything else. Now that you have the right info, I wish you a very happy and prosperous New Year.
Daniel
Boy, did I show my ignorance of the canes guns. I'm still trying to scrub all the egg off of my face! Thank you for jumping in and giving the correct info. I may have examined 8-10 in my lifetime and this one was very different from all the others. I don't remember any of them having any numbers, by then some of my memory cells are still out on vacation.From about 2010 or so.
Mr. Panda,
My apologies for my reply. I should stick to the pistols and stay away from everything else. Now that you have the right info, I wish you a very happy and prosperous New Year.
Daniel