yet, yet another serialnr question (1858 navy rider belt )

[billt]

Hello Erik,
According to Flayderman’s Guide to Antique American Firearms from three to five thousand Rider Double Action Belt Revolvers were manufactured from 1863 to 1873. They were first made in 36-caliber percussion and later in 38-caliber rim-fire metallic cartridge using a two-piece cylinder. They were made with various finishes, overall nickel plated, blued and some with nickel plated frames and blued barrels. Some were silver-plated.

Hope this helps.

Bill

[billt]

Erik,
I cannot help you out with the pin but when you say cylinder bolt if you are referring to the cylinder stop I do have a drawing which I had made several years ago that I could e-mail you. You could then take it to a local machine shop and have one fabricated.

Bill

[Little_BigMan]

I'm trying to find a couple of things out about the Remington Rider Belt Revolver (.36) produced between 1863, and I think about 1873, as follows: 1) I assume it was double/single action (not just DA only) based on descriptions I have seen about surviving models, true?; 2) About when, in 1863, was Remington turning this model out for sale? If anyone can assist with that information it is greatly appreciated! A good day to everyone.

[billt]

Hi,
You assumed correctly. The Rider Belt revolver worked as a single or double action revolver. Unfortunately there are no production records listing the monthly quantities shipped.

Bill

[billt]

Hi,
You assumed correctly. The Rider Belt revolver worked as a single or double action revolver. Unfortunately there are no production records listing the monthly quantities shipped.

Bill

[Little_BigMan]

Great information. Thanks so much for getting back!

[aardq]

I will have to disagree with my friend, Bill. The Belt is a SA only model, while the Belt D/A, or as some called it, a Rider is DA only, and it is not recommended to fire it SA. They use most of the same parts, but the frame and springs are different.

OK Bill, your turn to disagree with me. ; )
Dan

[Little_BigMan]

I really do appreciate all of the information. I am however, now thoroughly confused. Sorry.

[aardq]

You're not alone in your confusion. It was thought that the DA was made first, and the SA came several months later. It is believed that both were 1863 to 1873, first as percussion, then later as conversion models in .38rf. It was also thought that they were serialed separately, but the new research by Jim (on here) seems to indicate that they were sequentially numbered as if one model, since only one duplicate number (10) has turned up. That duplicate may be a special, custom gun, which were usually given letters, or single, or double serials. We will need a lot more research to get to any real answers.

Dan