1917 Remington test fire weapons
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copilot24
1917 Remington test fire weapons
I have three Remington mfg'd rifles supposedly used in the 1917 test trials by Turkey. Any way to verify if the rifles I own are these rifles. All three are MINT with matching bayonets & slings. British Enfield; Russian Moisan; French mod 1907/15. Any help would be appreciated. Jeff
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The Rifleman
Unfortunately, unless someone had provided documentation - when the guns were put away in storage,, there would be no real way to verify that they were the exact same weapons.
If you ever watched Antique Road Show or any of the other programs on PBS, you will see that every person there thinks that they have a piece of furniture that belonged to Louis 14.
If every piece of furniture was from Louis the 14th's collection - the Island of England would have sank from all the weight.
It's highly probable that if you have 3 identical guns from the same date of manufacture made by Remington that were preserved for all these years - that they were of some small significant value.
I would think though that if they made those guns all at the same time that they would have made them presentation grade and gave them away after the test to who ever they were trying to impress. After all, how much does it cost to make one of these weapons - if you were trying to sell them to a country that planed on buying them 100,000 at a time?
If you ever watched Antique Road Show or any of the other programs on PBS, you will see that every person there thinks that they have a piece of furniture that belonged to Louis 14.
If every piece of furniture was from Louis the 14th's collection - the Island of England would have sank from all the weight.
It's highly probable that if you have 3 identical guns from the same date of manufacture made by Remington that were preserved for all these years - that they were of some small significant value.
I would think though that if they made those guns all at the same time that they would have made them presentation grade and gave them away after the test to who ever they were trying to impress. After all, how much does it cost to make one of these weapons - if you were trying to sell them to a country that planed on buying them 100,000 at a time?
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copilot24
Remington 1917 rifles
Rifleman,
Thanks for the input. Kinda what I thought as well. One wierd thing is the Moisan has a serial #4, The Lebel has no visible #, the Enfield has a 5 digit #. Thanks again.
Jeff
Thanks for the input. Kinda what I thought as well. One wierd thing is the Moisan has a serial #4, The Lebel has no visible #, the Enfield has a 5 digit #. Thanks again.
Jeff
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The Rifleman
You're welcome.
The worst part about gun collectors is that ALL of them think that there is something about a particular gun that makes it VALUEABLE.
A friend of mine that sells used cars to people on public assistance once had a .300 Weatherby Magnum. The person that sold it to him came in and said that it was his fathers gun and that he didn't know anything about it.
After taking it to a gunshop, we found out that it was a old 1917 Enfield that someone had rechambered into a .300 Weatherby Magnum.
Another $60 for ammo and $100 for scope mounts and $200 for a cheap scope verified that the gun was a total piece of junk. It wouldn't hit a 24 inch paper target at 100 yards - twice in the same day.
When we went back to the origional owner and confronted him, all of a sudden he was a gun expert and he said - you don't think I would have left it go so cheap if it was a REAL Weatherby!
Some people cannot be trusted - even with a lie detector test in hand.
The worst part about gun collectors is that ALL of them think that there is something about a particular gun that makes it VALUEABLE.
A friend of mine that sells used cars to people on public assistance once had a .300 Weatherby Magnum. The person that sold it to him came in and said that it was his fathers gun and that he didn't know anything about it.
After taking it to a gunshop, we found out that it was a old 1917 Enfield that someone had rechambered into a .300 Weatherby Magnum.
Another $60 for ammo and $100 for scope mounts and $200 for a cheap scope verified that the gun was a total piece of junk. It wouldn't hit a 24 inch paper target at 100 yards - twice in the same day.
When we went back to the origional owner and confronted him, all of a sudden he was a gun expert and he said - you don't think I would have left it go so cheap if it was a REAL Weatherby!
Some people cannot be trusted - even with a lie detector test in hand.