manitou210's threads. WOW

[sooper]

Neat when yer flippin through the net and you find folk asking value of your gun. The gun is orig in EVERY way and a 30 express. Ya I'd like an aprox value. Difference is, it matters cause I own it



Yes I'd like to sell but want to be fair without taking a bath. The Gentleman that responded to manitou210's thread about MY FRIKIN gun saying non orig checkering is dead wrong thankyou. The gun is un altered in any and all ways

[35Rem]

Did you maybe ask the same question somewhere else? Maybe this guy was trying to get you your answer?
I think this forum has a general rule that they do not establish values of guns, but provide historical information.
Seems the 30 Express was discontinued in 1940. Since you are sure that the checkering is original, one would have to assume you are the original owner. Otherwise asking an expert his opinion then telling him he is "dead wrong" may be a bad approach at getting an answer.

I would also try editing your title to get more responses. It should allude to what you are asking.
Good luck and try to be civil.

[sooper]

Did you maybe ask the same question somewhere else? Maybe this guy was trying to get you your answer?

Oh hey I got nothing but civility in mind. I put it up for sale one place. I come here to get info. Hey bingo bang theres my gun

[John Gyde]

If you want to quote me, please do it accurately. I did not say it was non-factory. Read the post...

If you read 35 Rem's post you might get some hints.

On this post I will again say it doesn't appear to be factory work. If you bought it new and know better then there's not much reason to ask us. Please tell us how you know it's original and we can learn something.

[sooper]

If you want to quote me, please do it accurately. I did not say it was non-factory. Read the post...

If you read 35 Rem's post you might get some hints.

On this post I will again say it doesn't appear to be factory work. If you bought it new and know better then there's not much reason to ask us. Please tell us how you know it's original and we can learn something.

I did know the actual first owner. He had VERY few guns. A WW1 vet. I saw the gun and talked to the ol guy quite some decades ago. You know how ol boys always have to tell you how much they paid back then,thats how it came, still have the old empty cartridge box,etc etc. This ol boy in all his talk on it never mentioned a checkering job being done, and I can pretty near swear he wouldnt have got one done. As nice as he was if it was even a penny to get it done,NO GO. No fellas all of his guns were old, the very plainest of versions and just how they came. If they were ugly then ugly was how his grandson found them years ago while estate cleaning. Thats why I picked this gun up cause I could be sure of originalty

[remington600]

For a little bit of advice. The checkering is not original, and that box of shells was not bought with the gun new. Your rifle was discontinued in 1940. The box of shell you have has a child warning on the top right corner. That meens that box came out in 1962 or later. There are a ton of 30-06 model 30s out there. Your best bet would be to look at others on auction site, and see what they sold for. Don't look what there asking because that seldom right.

[sooper]

For a little bit of advice. The checkering is not original, and that box of shells was not bought with the gun new. Your rifle was discontinued in 1940. The box of shell you have has a child warning on the top right corner. That meens that box came out in 1962 or later. There are a ton of 30-06 model 30s out there. Your best bet would be to look at others on auction site, and see what they sold for. Don't look what there asking because that seldom right.

No your right the ammo is non orig. Its just stuck there for pic. I find it a rather striking similarity though. I mean lets set value aside,is the checkering not coincidentaly identical?
http://store.vintagepaperads.com/servle ... -30/Detail

[remington600]

This is a factory checkered 30

[sooper]

This is a factory checkered 30

That is true. I see many like that. Between the stock that still had the concave grooves and the full checkered you show I do see some like mine. GUNS OF THE WORLD 1977 "30S remingtons where are they now. The bottom pic on pg 256 is carbon copy

And this fella from the other side of the continent got the same aftermarket checkering job LOL. Mines in better shape though



Apart from condition its exact. curled under butt pad and all

[sooper]

Did I upset?

[John Gyde]

I'm not upset. You don't believe us when we say we don't think it's factory work. You think it is and are apparently looking for validation to increase the value of your gun. I doubt that it is going to happen. There's not much more to add to the post.

[remington600]

Not upset here either. It sounds like you think you found a jewel so really if you feel that way that is all that matters here. Congratulations on your find, Shoot it, and enjoy it. A little story though. I had a guy show me a rifle one time that someone put a horrific piece of ivory inlaid in the stock with a black diamond in the middle at a gunshop just outside of St Louis Mo. On a trip to the Virgin Islands I ran across a small shop in town and in the corner was an mauser, and would you believe it. It had the same exact gawdy ivory/black diamond inlaid in the stock.

[sooper]

Well I wont be arguing with those in the know. Its not so much to hype the value as it is that I have seen more checkered like that up here in canada actually than the one the gentleman posted in the pics. Then when I see them the same on net and books. You know,6 million jews type thing. Its more than just matching one. Anyway I guess this has been beat to death

[ChuckD]

sooper,

Let me add my comments as to originality.I agree it is original checkering.
Remington made 3 variations of the Model 30. (4 if you count carbines)
The 30A had a plain stock with grooves on the fore end, rear sight on the receiver.
The 30 Express had a smooth fore end with checkering on it and pistol grip,
the rear sight on the barrel. See the 1932 Remington catalog.
Both had the schnabel (sp?) fore end tip.
The 30S changed to the more modern 700 series style stock.
I have one of each and consider them all to be correct!
I think this just shows that there are many things about Remingtons that
are still open for research.

ChuckD

[sooper]

sooper,

Let me add my comments as to originality.I agree it is original checkering.
Remington made 3 variations of the Model 30. (4 if you count carbines)
The 30A had a plain stock with grooves on the fore end, rear sight on the receiver.
The 30 Express had a smooth fore end with checkering on it and pistol grip,
the rear sight on the barrel. See the 1932 Remington catalog.
Both had the schnabel (sp?) fore end tip.
The 30S changed to the more modern 700 series style stock.
I have one of each and consider them all to be correct!
I think this just shows that there are many things about Remingtons that
are still open for research.

ChuckD

AMEN
I've just got it on so so so many more sources than not,books,people writing books. One gentleman from the east coast writing a book exclusevly to the 30 etc etc etc. And the foolish fact of knowing where the gun came from. Its lau originale in all regards. Its between the grooved stock and the one the poster pictured above. I aint backing away from that. Just to much proof supporting. Way more than just seeing one other similar at a shop