Dear 870 Wingmaster Owners & Experts.
I have been having trouble with with my 870 Wingmaster leaving me empty chamber on my second and third shots when using magnum rounds. At first I thought it was me. Then I tried stronger and even double magazine springs. I replaced both shell latch springs think they we defective. After closer examination I determined that is a timing problem with the slide and right hand latch release that stops two shells from intering the breech at the same time. Basically the higher recoil causes the slide to open to the point where the magazine latch, which allows the first round to go through and the stops the second round from entering the breech, opens to catch the second round but inadvertently catches the first round which is rebounding from the recoil and results in leaving the shooter with an empty chamber on the next shot. I have been able to recreate this problem with two separate 870s Wingmasters. After some problem solving I decided that the right hand slide latch release notch should be able to be moved forward enough the stop the problem without adversely affecting function and fire.
Thoughts & Has any one else experienced this problem?
Rodney
870 Empty Chamber Problem
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The Rifleman
Re: 870 Empty Chamber Problem
870 Remington is not a semi automatic shotgun.
It is worked by pulling the forearm back and cycling the action to feed the next round into the breech of the weapon.
If your recoil is that bad, you need to pump it slower.
It's not a contest.
The 870 Remington - Wingmaster was designed and manufactured to be one of the best pump action hunting shotguns ever made - especially for the price.
It was never made to be used as a machine gun.
From time to time, you will have issues with anything that is made by man and from time to time you will get one that does not work the way you want it to and will have to make some minor adjustments to get it to do what you want it to do.
I had the same problem with a 870 Super Magnum - because I took it apart for cleaning purposes and when I put it back together - the rod that holds the shells into the tube - which seem's to be made from some type of spring steel - changed from not having any pressure against it and would not work the way it did before -when it was in the gun. It didn't even want to go back into the gun.
I took it to a good gunsmith and he did some adjustments - and 3 months later I picked up my shotgun and it worked just fine again.
I believe that he charged me $45
The new part was probably less money than that, but you have to remember - if that part that was suspect was not wrong, I would have spent money on a part that I really didn't need to replace.
Thank god I had a back up shotgun to use for the rest of the hunting season - or I would have been screwed.
The moral of the story is to never take your gun to be fixed to the home workshop of a good gunsmith - or he will fix other peoples guns before yours. Especially when it is Thanksgiving and the following Monday is the opening day of deer season.
It is worked by pulling the forearm back and cycling the action to feed the next round into the breech of the weapon.
If your recoil is that bad, you need to pump it slower.
It's not a contest.
The 870 Remington - Wingmaster was designed and manufactured to be one of the best pump action hunting shotguns ever made - especially for the price.
It was never made to be used as a machine gun.
From time to time, you will have issues with anything that is made by man and from time to time you will get one that does not work the way you want it to and will have to make some minor adjustments to get it to do what you want it to do.
I had the same problem with a 870 Super Magnum - because I took it apart for cleaning purposes and when I put it back together - the rod that holds the shells into the tube - which seem's to be made from some type of spring steel - changed from not having any pressure against it and would not work the way it did before -when it was in the gun. It didn't even want to go back into the gun.
I took it to a good gunsmith and he did some adjustments - and 3 months later I picked up my shotgun and it worked just fine again.
I believe that he charged me $45
The new part was probably less money than that, but you have to remember - if that part that was suspect was not wrong, I would have spent money on a part that I really didn't need to replace.
Thank god I had a back up shotgun to use for the rest of the hunting season - or I would have been screwed.
The moral of the story is to never take your gun to be fixed to the home workshop of a good gunsmith - or he will fix other peoples guns before yours. Especially when it is Thanksgiving and the following Monday is the opening day of deer season.