1848 .44 pistols
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Porchrocker
1848 .44 pistols
In going through my husband's things (he's recently had a series of massive strokes), I came across a pair of 1848 .44 pistols; one with the early cone sight and one with the later "standard" sight. He's able to tell me that they're original, but unable to communicate any more about them. Can anyone tell me just what I've found? Thanks.
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Re: 1848 .44 pistols
1848 or 1858? (Sept 14, 1858?) Serial #? All writing / other marks?Porchrocker wrote:In going through my husband's things (he's recently had a series of massive strokes), I came across a pair of 1848 .44 pistols; one with the early cone sight and one with the later "standard" sight. He's able to tell me that they're original, but unable to communicate any more about them. Can anyone tell me just what I've found? Thanks.
David J. Fagan
The Silicon Sorcerer
The Silicon Sorcerer
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Porchrocker
Oops, you're right, it's 1858
On the top of the barrel of each, it says "Patented September 14, 1858" "E. Remington & Sons Ilion, New York U.S.A.".
The one with the regular sight has a third line under that, but I can't make it out. It might be "NEW-MODEL". It also has a small carved or stamped rectangle on the wood handle with "GP" inside. There are letters stamped in the metal -- pointing away from you the right side has a W on both the barrel and the metal closer to the round thing where the bullets go. On the left side it's a J in the same locations. Also a J on the metal below the trigger on the left, and at least two Ws on the chamber(?). There's a P on the brass area in front of the trigger. Underneath the barrel when you drop away part of the gun you can see "89740".
The cone-sighted gun: "B_" (K? H?) in the handle rectangle (very hard to read). The right side has a J on barrel and other upper part; A on the left side of the barrel, U near the chamber, A above the screw that's below the trigger, and F at the lower edge of that piece; A on the bottom brass; both a J and an S on the chamber. Underneath the barrel is 16867.
Does this help?
The one with the regular sight has a third line under that, but I can't make it out. It might be "NEW-MODEL". It also has a small carved or stamped rectangle on the wood handle with "GP" inside. There are letters stamped in the metal -- pointing away from you the right side has a W on both the barrel and the metal closer to the round thing where the bullets go. On the left side it's a J in the same locations. Also a J on the metal below the trigger on the left, and at least two Ws on the chamber(?). There's a P on the brass area in front of the trigger. Underneath the barrel when you drop away part of the gun you can see "89740".
The cone-sighted gun: "B_" (K? H?) in the handle rectangle (very hard to read). The right side has a J on barrel and other upper part; A on the left side of the barrel, U near the chamber, A above the screw that's below the trigger, and F at the lower edge of that piece; A on the bottom brass; both a J and an S on the chamber. Underneath the barrel is 16867.
Does this help?
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remshots
New Model Army Revolvers
You have two Remington New Model Army Revolvers, AKA Remington Model of 1863
Army Revolvers.
The first has the third line atop the barrel and it does say "NEW MODEL".
The "GP" is the acceptance stamp of U.S. Inspector Giles Porter indicating he
accepted the pistol for the Government. Porter inspected Remington and
Pettengill firearms for the U.S. from 1862 until 1875.
The "W", "J" and "P" are acceptance stamps of Remington Inspectors. Today we
would call them Quality Assurance Inspectors. I do not know their title in
the 1800s.
The "89740" on the bottom of the barrel is the gun's serial number. It
should be under the left grip on the grip frame and on the trigger guard.
The Government Inspector's stamp on the other pistol is "BH" which was the
acceptance stamp of Inspector Benjamin Hannis. He inspected the firearms of
Remington, Allen & Wheelock, Colt, Savage and Starr.
Here again, the "J", "A", "U, "F" and "S" are factory Inspectors and the
"16867" is the gun's serial number.
I hope the foregoing has been of interest to you. If you have any questions
or if I may be of further service, please, let me know.
RemShots
Army Revolvers.
The first has the third line atop the barrel and it does say "NEW MODEL".
The "GP" is the acceptance stamp of U.S. Inspector Giles Porter indicating he
accepted the pistol for the Government. Porter inspected Remington and
Pettengill firearms for the U.S. from 1862 until 1875.
The "W", "J" and "P" are acceptance stamps of Remington Inspectors. Today we
would call them Quality Assurance Inspectors. I do not know their title in
the 1800s.
The "89740" on the bottom of the barrel is the gun's serial number. It
should be under the left grip on the grip frame and on the trigger guard.
The Government Inspector's stamp on the other pistol is "BH" which was the
acceptance stamp of Inspector Benjamin Hannis. He inspected the firearms of
Remington, Allen & Wheelock, Colt, Savage and Starr.
Here again, the "J", "A", "U, "F" and "S" are factory Inspectors and the
"16867" is the gun's serial number.
I hope the foregoing has been of interest to you. If you have any questions
or if I may be of further service, please, let me know.
RemShots