Special Remington or not?

[Nils]

Hi all,

At first glance this looks like a Remington revolver, but the front sight is different compared to other Remington revolvers.
The front sight consists only of a small round pin and there is no dovetail as it should be, such as on a model 1858. Just a flat surface with a steel pin.

Unfortunately the barrel address can no longer be read. Only a few letters at the end of it.
There is a letter D on the barrel but nothing on the drum.
The serial number is still clearly legible.

Anyone who can tell something about this revolver? Is it Remington and what could be the year of manufacture?

And lastly what is it worth?
Unfortunately, the cylinder does not rotate when tensioning and there is lateral and upward play.
The inside of the barrel is a 3 out of 10 and heavily contaminated.
The hammer cocks well and firmly.

Thanks!

[aardq]

Hello Nils,

Interesting revolver. The serial was made in Nov of 1864. It is a New Model Army. The recoil shield has been milled for cartridge loading, and a backing plate has been added to the rear of the frame opening, but it has a standard, percussion cylinder. It may have been converted to fire a rim fire cartridge, so that the pistol was still usable with a percussion cylinder, or a rim fire cylinder. There is a numeral, 3, stamped into the battom of the barrel, and this usually indicates a repair or renovation, which probably means that it was converted by the factory.


It looks like the locking latch of the loading lever may have been repaired, and the front sight has been replaced. The cone sights required that the barrel have a cut milled into it for the cone sights. Remington changed the front sight to a "pinched" sight, which is a small rod that has the sides cut away to make a sight. These were screwed into the barrel, so the lack of the slots indicates that it had a "pinched" sight.

The Serial number should also be on the trigger guard tab.

Hopefully this helps.
Daniel

[dieNusse1]

Interesting. I have a NMA #80320 converted to 45 LC. The recoil shield has been milled to accept a backing plate similar to yours. The frame was milled using a square cutter while yours appears to be an angle cut. Other than the slots for the backing plate no other milling has been done to the frame.

The cylinder appears to be a percussion cylinder that has been modified to accept center fire ammo.

The only other major change is of course a hammer machined for center fire. Instead of a 3 stamped under the barrel it's stamped 33.

[billt]

Hello Nils,
Would it be possible to get a picture of the back of the cylinder from your revolver and a side view of the firing pin. I have a non-Remington Factory cylinder cap conversion of a New Model Army which has been converted to 44 Remington center fire. The nipples have been removed and the hammer modified such that the firing pin contacts the primer thru the nipple holes. If your cylinder has been modified to accept center fire ammunition I would like to see to see the cylinder and hammer modifications.

Thanks,

Bill

[dieNusse1]

Hope this helps.

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[Nils]

Thank you everyone for the information and it is appreciated.

Good to hear that it is a real original Remington.

What would the sales value be?

[aardq]

Hi Nils,

There are just too many variables to be able to give a value estimate, that is anything but a guess, so the RSA policy is that no values can be given.

Daniel

[Nils]

Hi Daniel,

Thanks and I understand.
No problem at all.

Thanks again all for the information.

Nils