New to my 1858
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New to my 1858
I do not have Don’s book so can anyone help me with any info on my gun, .44 8 inch barrel, new model s# 50616. Would love to know any and all. Some pics included. Why the star and heart on the handle? …..and go!
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Re: New to my 1858
no comments on this gun??????? Was hoping for at least 1 expert
Re: New to my 1858
Hello Odie,
Your New Model Army was made in Dec. 1863. The Star and heart appear to be stamped into the grip, so added by a previous owner. The upside down heart must have some meaning to the one who stamped the grip. I can't make out a military cartouche on the left grip, nor do I see any other stamps except the "C" on the trigger guard, so it was probably a civilian gun.
The letter "C" is used to mark guns that were refused by the gov inspector, and condemned. The "C" is often stamped next to the serial number. Do the numbers under the left grip, and on the trigger guard tab match the bbl number? Are there any markings written on the inside of the grips?
Over all, it appears to be a nice gun.
Daniel
Your New Model Army was made in Dec. 1863. The Star and heart appear to be stamped into the grip, so added by a previous owner. The upside down heart must have some meaning to the one who stamped the grip. I can't make out a military cartouche on the left grip, nor do I see any other stamps except the "C" on the trigger guard, so it was probably a civilian gun.
The letter "C" is used to mark guns that were refused by the gov inspector, and condemned. The "C" is often stamped next to the serial number. Do the numbers under the left grip, and on the trigger guard tab match the bbl number? Are there any markings written on the inside of the grips?
Over all, it appears to be a nice gun.
Daniel
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Re: New to my 1858
If you look under the heart the cartouche is there I think. There are no Cs by any other serial numbers. Added new pics
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Hi Odie,
Thanks for the 3 new pic. I agree that the remains of a cartouche are visible under the inlaid heart. That means that the gun was probably in US service. The letter, "H" on the ;loading lever is an inspector's mark, reinforcing the US property belief. The letter on the trigger guard may be an "O" and not a "C." I don't know what the, "KO" on the rear of the cylinder indicates. Both US, and factory Inspectors used a single letter as an inspection stamp, so no idea on two letters.
It still looks like a nice revolver and enjoy it for what it is.
Daniel
Thanks for the 3 new pic. I agree that the remains of a cartouche are visible under the inlaid heart. That means that the gun was probably in US service. The letter, "H" on the ;loading lever is an inspector's mark, reinforcing the US property belief. The letter on the trigger guard may be an "O" and not a "C." I don't know what the, "KO" on the rear of the cylinder indicates. Both US, and factory Inspectors used a single letter as an inspection stamp, so no idea on two letters.
It still looks like a nice revolver and enjoy it for what it is.
Daniel