Reminton model 700 BDL ?
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joe.l
Reminton model 700 BDL ?
first post here , hello to everyone ! I have a question , I am thinking of getting a Remington 700 BDL in 30/06. I have heard that the stock configuration of the 700 BDL transmits more felt recoil then may be desired ?I want to know from any owners what they think of this model ? The one I am looking at has 22 inch barrel.It's an older one , not DM model .I have heard they are every accurate ,any other things I should know ? Difference between J-bolt and not J-bolt ?? Trigger pull, and let off ? Anyone worked up a hand load , good for deer hunting ? Most accurate load ? Best scope mounts that permit scope to sit farth back in the mounts , shorten eye relief ? thanks Joe
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The Rifleman
You better go to a gunshop and let the gunsmith hold your hand.
You want to know everything there is to know about a Model 700 and all you are going to get is one persons opinion.
Most people will not give out reloading information because they feel that they developed some miracle load that no one else thought of before.
A 30 / 06 is a 30 / 06, all guns kick. Some kick more than others.
If you are afraid that it is going to kick - then don't buy it. It will kick.
Once you get beyond that, the next step is ammo.
Magnum loads will perform better than a stock Remington Core Lockt but then again it don't take much to kill a deer.
The Magnum loads will kick more at the shooting bench - than will a standard load.
You want to hand load, fine. What kind of brass are you going to use and what kind of powder you are going to use and what brand of bullets you are going to use and what manufacturer and number of primer you are going to use are all going to have a effect on how it will perform in your gun.
What would I use? A Remington R - P case, A CCI 300 Primer, IMR 4350 - 58 Grains and a Hornady or Sierra 150 grain bullet. Pointed Spire Point and not a Ballistic tip or a Hollow point or a Boat tail. Trim case back to mininum length.
Winchester cases are better brass, but the brass is also harder and will require an anneal before you reload it the first time. Along with a trim - back to mininum length.
You can expect to get 3 - 5 reloadings out of one brass shell with this load.
Trigger pull is factory - and you will need to pay a GUNSMITH to change it.
There are people in this world that I wouldn't trust to change the spark plug in my lawn mower - and they think that they can adjust a trigger themselves. Do us all a favor and pay someone to do it for you that knows what they are doing.
If you shorten the eye relief, you are going to have more of a opportunity of getting scope bruised when you find out that the gun has more felt recoil.
Scope set back should be done with a good scope and not with the mount.
I use Weaver Detachable Rail Mounts on my Model 700's.
You could go with a Leupold Mount or a Redfield Mount if you wish.
You want to know everything there is to know about a Model 700 and all you are going to get is one persons opinion.
Most people will not give out reloading information because they feel that they developed some miracle load that no one else thought of before.
A 30 / 06 is a 30 / 06, all guns kick. Some kick more than others.
If you are afraid that it is going to kick - then don't buy it. It will kick.
Once you get beyond that, the next step is ammo.
Magnum loads will perform better than a stock Remington Core Lockt but then again it don't take much to kill a deer.
The Magnum loads will kick more at the shooting bench - than will a standard load.
You want to hand load, fine. What kind of brass are you going to use and what kind of powder you are going to use and what brand of bullets you are going to use and what manufacturer and number of primer you are going to use are all going to have a effect on how it will perform in your gun.
What would I use? A Remington R - P case, A CCI 300 Primer, IMR 4350 - 58 Grains and a Hornady or Sierra 150 grain bullet. Pointed Spire Point and not a Ballistic tip or a Hollow point or a Boat tail. Trim case back to mininum length.
Winchester cases are better brass, but the brass is also harder and will require an anneal before you reload it the first time. Along with a trim - back to mininum length.
You can expect to get 3 - 5 reloadings out of one brass shell with this load.
Trigger pull is factory - and you will need to pay a GUNSMITH to change it.
There are people in this world that I wouldn't trust to change the spark plug in my lawn mower - and they think that they can adjust a trigger themselves. Do us all a favor and pay someone to do it for you that knows what they are doing.
If you shorten the eye relief, you are going to have more of a opportunity of getting scope bruised when you find out that the gun has more felt recoil.
Scope set back should be done with a good scope and not with the mount.
I use Weaver Detachable Rail Mounts on my Model 700's.
You could go with a Leupold Mount or a Redfield Mount if you wish.
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HUNTNUT
Hi Joe. Personally I think the 30-06 is the best all around cartridge there is. I have a rem. 700 bdl in that caliber. (the 1st hunting rifle I ever bought) It's been extremely effective for me. I can't recall ever losing a deer shot with this fine rifle. Just about every deer I've ever taken with it has been recovered within 25 yds. of where they stood. I do handload and have for a while - something I learned from my dad who handloaded for his '06. MY recipe is: remington brass - cci large rifle primer, 55 grains of IMR 4350, topped off with a 150 grain sierra spitzer. As far as the recoil - It doesn't really bother me - but if it's a concern to you, there are some recoil pads that'll probably "soften things up" ! I agree with THE RIFLEMAN - have your trigger and any other work done by a competent gunsmith - you'll be happy you did. Good luck and good shooting!!
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BusMaster007
If you're still checking out this thread...
That J-Lock can be tossed in favor of the Callahan unit available on Midway's site.
The factory J-Lock shroud is HUGE and it compresses the spring inside the bolt, so the Callahan unit is a good change to make.
The factory BDL stock could be changed over to a HOGUE pillar-bedded stock and that has a good feel to it as well as a softer buttpad; plus it is a cleaner looking stock in that it gets rid of the 'hump' that's on the wooden stock.
I like mine!
As for scopes/mounts, definetly get something with more eye-relief for the scope --- IF you're worried about it with the .30-06.
If you don't crawl the stock, 3-3.5" of eye-relief will be 'OK'.
Weaver scopes are good, but have kind of short eye relief.
NIKON scopes are excellent, and have a bit more. I like the Monarch scopes, but the Buckmaster scopes are pretty good. The differences are in the lens coatings and 1-pc. vs. 2-pc. construction.
Leupold scopes usually have the 'most' eye-relief. The Rifleman series is the least expensive for the 'Leupold' Golden Ring Club Award, if you must have that.
I have a few Leupold Vari-X III's and will admit to their being worth having, even though it took me a while to get past the snob appeal. Good products!
Mounts: I like the detachable type, with rings that will clear the sights if you want to use the sights should the scope fail.
If that doesn't matter, then the 'Redfield' type mount will work fine and you can remove the open sights and mount the scope even lower yet!
I hope you enjoy the Remington 700 BDL in .30-06.
It's a great combination!
That J-Lock can be tossed in favor of the Callahan unit available on Midway's site.
The factory J-Lock shroud is HUGE and it compresses the spring inside the bolt, so the Callahan unit is a good change to make.
The factory BDL stock could be changed over to a HOGUE pillar-bedded stock and that has a good feel to it as well as a softer buttpad; plus it is a cleaner looking stock in that it gets rid of the 'hump' that's on the wooden stock.
I like mine!
As for scopes/mounts, definetly get something with more eye-relief for the scope --- IF you're worried about it with the .30-06.
If you don't crawl the stock, 3-3.5" of eye-relief will be 'OK'.
Weaver scopes are good, but have kind of short eye relief.
NIKON scopes are excellent, and have a bit more. I like the Monarch scopes, but the Buckmaster scopes are pretty good. The differences are in the lens coatings and 1-pc. vs. 2-pc. construction.
Leupold scopes usually have the 'most' eye-relief. The Rifleman series is the least expensive for the 'Leupold' Golden Ring Club Award, if you must have that.
I have a few Leupold Vari-X III's and will admit to their being worth having, even though it took me a while to get past the snob appeal. Good products!
Mounts: I like the detachable type, with rings that will clear the sights if you want to use the sights should the scope fail.
If that doesn't matter, then the 'Redfield' type mount will work fine and you can remove the open sights and mount the scope even lower yet!
I hope you enjoy the Remington 700 BDL in .30-06.
It's a great combination!