1889 loads

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doubleman

1889 loads

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ok ive been looking at a grade 3 remington 1889 in excelent cond.
no rust no pitts any where , it was made in 1893 kinda when smokeless hit the market so i was wondering if i could shoot regular target loads
2 3/4, 1 1/2 oz. or bigger?

and it ok to post a link to where the gun is, its just gunbroker
Jay Huber

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I assume you are talking about item #67503086 on Gun Broker. The man already tells you the gun is not safe to shoot. Why would you want to buy it and try it. It is in poor condition and too high priced. It has Damascus Barrels which are usually not recommended for modern Ammo and the chambers are probably for 2 5/8" shells, not 2 3/4". Don't fool with it as a shooter! You are liable ti get hurt. Jay Huber RSA
doubleman

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uh, no. ive seen this one and it angers me that they are selling it so expesivley, http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewIt ... m=67065797 its this one. its the case and every thing. the only thing is that one of the pin springs is busted. and ive seen on other posts that they shoot 1oz. loads, i was just wondering because of its conition if i could use a larger load, like what was on the market at that time.
Jay Huber

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I looked at the new gun and my remarks still apply about Damascus and Chamber length. I think his price is too high and I wouldn't shoot it with anything but back powder shells. If I were you I would wait until I found an 1889 with steel barrels. I shoot mine with regular trap loads all the time. Regards Jay
doubleman

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oh, i thought that they were shoting those damascus guns with low pressure shells, i think the thread is called "1889 2 3/4 chamber load" or somthin like that, im pretty sure they were talkin about using 6500 psi or lower shells, i also talked to briley and they said and that if the damascus barrels are in good cond. you CAN put CHAMBER sleeves in a 12 gauge to yhe next gauge and use regular ammo. so im probably going to chamber it to 20 and if i go into a twelve gauge comp. i can just take them out and use gambore ammo. plus the guy just lowered his price to 750 and that he would pay for shipping.
doubleman

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ok, the thread is http://www.remingtonsociety.com/phpBB2/ ... .php?t=107
they say 1oz. eley or gamebore loads work fine in thier twist barrels
i wonder why those 2 3/4 shells fit in thiers, also, the vintagers started making 2 1/2 shells that are low pressure for like $48 per 250rnds.
and also, i thought that these shotguns were nitro proofed?
Jay Huber

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Have a gunsmith check the chambers. Some were produced in 2 3/4. You can shoot 2 3/4 shells in a 2 5/8 chambers they may produce extra recoil. Also a gunsmith may open the chambers up if they are undersized. Yes the guns were nitro proofed but back when smokeless powder first came out. Today's smokeless powders develop higher pressures than back then. I will not tell you the gun is shootable since I can't inspect it and I will not be held responsible to you if it blows up. Do what you want on your own. Jay Huber
doubleman

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ah, that makes more sense. they were saying like 6500psi, how do you know what the psi is, do you look at the velocity and the oz. also, i figured
that the price of that gun is a justifiable because it comes with the case
and i looked to see how much they are and cheapest i could find was $150
and this one was leather covered and the cheapest icould find one a those
was $250, and i was thinking the same thing as you, getting the the chambers pushed back a 1/8th of an inch. also, all the 1889's ive seen (in this cond.)are this price or higher.
doubleman

Post by doubleman »

ah, that makes more sense. they were saying like 6500psi, how do you know what the psi is, do you look at the velocity and the oz. also, i figured
that the price of that gun is a justifiable because it comes with the case
and i looked to see how much they are and cheapest i could find was $150
and this one was leather covered and the cheapest icould find one a those
was $250, and i was thinking the same thing as you, getting the the chambers pushed back a 1/8th of an inch. also, all the 1889's ive seen (in this cond.)are this price or higher.
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