BillK wrote:Good evening Forum members. I was wondering if you can be kind and advise me when a Remington model 1894, 10 gauge with serial #117301 and 32" damascus barrels was made.
Thank you in advance.
BillK
I actually don't have Semmer book, but I think 1900.
If I'm wrong I'm sure someone will correct me
The 10 Ga was offered in 30 & 32" barrels. Since yours measures 32" it has not been shortened which is a common change to these guns due to damaged barrels. It should be easy to compare the S/N on barrels, action body, trigger guard, stock (under trigger guard tang), forearm iron and forearm wood to determine whether they match. I assume they will match which indicates original configuration.
BillK -- you really need to purchase a copy of Charles Semmer's book "Remington Double Shotguns" which should be available on this site. The book covers all models from the early lifters through the end of production of the 1889, 1894 and 1900 in 1910.
As Charles left this world for greener pastures not too long ago, I'm not sure how to order the book but there should be someone out there who can help.
As for the numbers on the lug, these indicate degree of choke. A leading 3 is assumed. In the case of 12 Ga, Remington used 1 1/4 oz of Tateman & Bros. #8 shot fired at a 30" circle at 40 yds. As 1 1/4 oz of Tateman & Bros. shot contained 511 pellets, 368/511 = 72% and 334/511 = 65% or full and imp. modified. Whether this is true for 10 Ga I don't know. Maybe someone out there has a 10 Ga hang tag which indicates load used when determining choke.
Bill - for what it's worth, I have an Ithaca 10 Ga hang tag which states 1 1/4 oz was used to determine choke. Although the same shot wasn't used perhaps there was some standardization of loads during this period when industrial standards were beginning to be established.
I have a 82 10ga. You'll have to roll your own. Buy new, empty, primed Remington 10ga hulls from BPI - about $44/100. Cut them down to 2 7/8. Wads can be bought from them - also get the 1/2" paper cushion wad to put in the plastic wad. A Mec 600jr works great. For target work I use any 12ga load that's under 9000psi - you'll have less in the 10 because of the larger chamber. For hunting loads go to www.parkergun.org - in the reloading forum there's many tested loads. If I can be of any help you can email me at - bladesmith46@hotmail.com - good luck - Paul
As far as I know a hang tag for a Remington Arms Co. 10-gauge double has not come to light. However, the heaviest 10-gauge loads Union Metallic Cartridge Co. offered in 1900, the year the gun in question was probably made, was 3 3/4 drams of bulk smokeless powder pushing 1 1/4 ounces of shot out of their TRAP shell. A few years later UMC sped up the 10-gauge loads a bit with up to 4 1/4 drams of bulk smokeless powder or 34 grains of dense smokeless powder pushing that same 1 1/4 ounce of shot out of their ARROW shell.
I don't see the 10ga Remington hulls listed on the BPI web site or in their new catalog, only Federal hulls - Precision Reloading carries them and cheaper than BPI and they're Remingtons.
It has sorta/kinda the right checkering on the grip. I don't have a Remington Hammerless 10-gauge and was quite interested when I handled it in Las Vegas some years back, but to my eyes from 60 years of handling them, that stock just isn't Remington work --
