7mm rolling block identify

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tjack
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Re: 7mm rolling block identify

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Your rifle is an anomaly! I have one similar to yours. Mine has a Swedish M1867/89 receiver and butt stock with a Remington barrel and forearm. The barrel carries German proofs. The barrel is chambered for the 7mm Mauser cartridge. Most of those seen are missing the breechblock as is mine. If yours is complete with breechblock and hammer you are fortunate. I've thought of buying a junker Swede m67/89 just for the breechblock and extractor but the parts would have to be reverse-engineered to fit. There is speculation that these were used by Paraguay against Bolivia in the Gran Chaco War of 1932-1935. George Layman, in his "The Military Remington Rolling Block Rifle" states that Bill Wescombe of Calif. bought 235 of these from Golden State Arms Co around 1957. There is also speculation that these were made up by the Mexican Govt in the early 1900's. Can't explain the German proofs! I envy you being able to shoot yours!!!
JV Puleo

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Its a Mexican conversion of a Swedish action... the work was done in Germany for the Mexican govt.. Its a long and complicated story, but confirmation of this only came after we published Geo. Layman's RB book.

Joe Puleo
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That is one of the pitfalls of writing a book. Invariably, the book itself draws out information you didn't even know existed. In this case, Geo. was contacted by a retired Mexican Ordnance officer who sent him a copy of a report on the program these rifles were produced under.
THBailey
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JV Puleo wrote:That is one of the pitfalls of writing a book. Invariably, the book itself draws out information you didn't even know existed. In this case, Geo. was contacted by a retired Mexican Ordnance officer who sent him a copy of a report on the program these rifles were produced under.
I also have one of these rifles and would like to find out a little more about them. What does a guy have to do to get a copy of the report?
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THBailey
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One more photo showing the welded over identification symbols.
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BrainDead
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I know this is an old topic, but on an off chance THBailey do you have pictures of the extractor from the RB you have?
I have a Swede 89 model with identical marks. It has barrel hammer and breach block but the extractor is gone and I need images to be able to make a replacement one.
That is unless the breach has been modified from the standard 89 Swede breach.
Also trying to find out what the fore grip looked like.
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B67
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Womack's list the rotary extractor for the 1889 model....
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Post by Franklah »

Fantastic project and well done for finding a way to do an SAP build but make a pre-WW1 type

To me a likely candidate would seem to be something akin to the Deperdussin or Bleriot.
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