Remington Model 12 identification help

[Wulfman]

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You have a Remington Model 12 "Gallery Special".
The "Gallery Special" models were chambered for (as far as I know) the .22 Short cartridge (ONLY). Many were used in indoor "shooting galleries" back in the early half of the 20th century and maybe in some carnival shooting galleries, too.

I would suggest going up to the "Search" function (in the green bar) and put in the words "Gallery Special" and start reading. There's quite a bit of info in the previous posts.

I would also suggest doing a Google search on the phrase "Remington Model 12 Gallery Special", too.

And, yes, John Gyde and Roy Marcot are the "experts" on Remington rimfire rifles.


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[Wulfman]

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Some things from your details that pop out at me.
From the serial number you listed, I'm quite sure yours was made before 1921.
Your description of the "stampings" in the left side of the barrel make me think they were inspection marks.

Regarding the serial number, I have a Model 12 C with serial number 7290XX that was made in March of 1928 (Date code A W). My father has a Model 12 C with serial number 6144XX that was made in April 1923 (Date code C P). Your serial number is much, much lower.
Here's a link to the date codes.

http://www.remingtonsociety.com/rsa/que ... arrelcodes

Typically, the Model 12 Cs had octagon barrels and buttstocks with pistol grips and crescent butt plates. However, I'm not familiar with the variations that were available in the "Gallery Special" models.


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[John Gyde]

According to Rem records your Model 12-B (the B is the Gallery Special in .22 Short) was made in 1910. The 12-C had the most variations. The "B"s are sometimes partially nickel plated, but most were blued.

[Wulfman]

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Thanks all your input is really giving me hope that this is a valuable gun, not speaking in monetary value because I don't sell my guns they are like children, but more of historical significance of a rifle from the early 1900's. as for the date marks I have seen the diagram before and mine has no marks that match it. That marking code was put into production in 1921 that is why I believe this is a pre-1921 rifle plus the serial number is under 50,000. Attached is a picture of the barrel marks to give you a better idea. I'm thinking of taking pictures of all the markings to help figure this riddle out.

Kind of a dumb question but is their just a gallery special model. I thought all the model 12's were gallery specials and they also had sub models such as 12a, 12b, 12c etc. if you could help me understand all this. Thanks

-Semper Fi

No, the "Model 12" is the main model category. Some of the variations were:
Model 12 A (straight grip, round barrel and flat non-metal buttplate)
Model 12 C (pistol grip stock, octagon barrel and crescent metal buttplate)
I think the vast majority of the non-"Gallery Special" models were chambered for the short, long and long rifle cartridges.
There was also a model called the "CS" which was chambered for the ".22 Special" - WRF. (a longer case and similar to, but not interchangeable with the later-introduced Winchester .22 Magnum - WMR) I believe this variation also had an octagon barrel and pistol grip with crescent buttplate.

The "Gallery Special" was just another subcategory (with apparent variations). As far as I know, all of them were chambered for ONLY the .22 short.

These links will give you a little more info:

http://www.remington.com/en/products/ar ... el-12.aspx

http://www.wisnersinc.com/additional_in ... on_m12.htm


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[John Gyde]

[quote="cmalan1213"]And that sir is why you are the expert John thank you both for all the help. Were you saying that my rifle was manufactured in 1910 or that the 12b started production in 1910?[/quote]

Your rifle was made in 1910. The 12-B was introduced in 1909.

[Go8bud]

Hello I found this while looking up info on a Remington pump I inherited. Round barrel no markings on barrel except for calibers. SN marked under reciever is RW 50201. I'm trying to fine rear tang sight it's missing the sight that screws in.
Any information would be great!! Front has a flip sight from a circle post to just post. Has flip rear blade on barrel and on the stock has the tang but no info on it, 2 screws hold it at the top of stock / reciever.
Thank you