Hello all – I found this interesting site after searching the 1894 hammerless shotgun and seeing reference to this site at other sites i.e., http://www.16ga.com. I’ve learned that my 1894 Remington is a grade A with “Remington steel” barrels. It seems everyone advises to shoot it only with light 2 ½ inch loads and not to re-chamber this old gun.
Numbers on the rear barrel lug, 157 & 300, seems to indicate that barrels are choked cylinder and full. When I measure the chokes with my gauge, they read larger than cylinder on the right and modified on the left. My question is, did someone open up these barrels or did Remington make the gun with barrels larger than the normal 16 gauge diameter.
Any thoughts about the chokes or bore diameters?
1894 haammeless chokes
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Stuartwillard
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Re: 1894 haammeless chokes
I own two 16-gauge Remington Hammerless Double Barrel Shotguns, and on both the bores are larger than the nominal 16-gauge bore diameter of .662". My 1909 vintage KE-Grade has bores of .670" and my 1905 DEO-Grade has bores of .669".
If you are measuring chokes with a plug you stick in the end of the barrel, throw it in the bay or make a decoy anchor out of it! The only way to know anything about your bores and chokes is with a bore micrometer. Brownells sells good ones, and Connecticut Shotgun Manufacturing Company (Galazan) sells great ones.
If you are measuring chokes with a plug you stick in the end of the barrel, throw it in the bay or make a decoy anchor out of it! The only way to know anything about your bores and chokes is with a bore micrometer. Brownells sells good ones, and Connecticut Shotgun Manufacturing Company (Galazan) sells great ones.
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Stuartwillard
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Re: 1894 haammeless chokes
The right barrel, assumed to be with a cylinder choke, measures 0.70 at the muzzle with a basic dial caliper. This is good news for me because it indicates the chokes were not altered.
From what you are telling me I assume the barrels of this gun are actually cylinder and full as I thought based on the pellet counts. Was it common to have cylinder and full chokes?
Thanks!
From what you are telling me I assume the barrels of this gun are actually cylinder and full as I thought based on the pellet counts. Was it common to have cylinder and full chokes?
Thanks!
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Re: 1894 haammeless chokes
In that there are no surviving Remington Hammerless Double Barrel Shotgun production records, that question can't really be answered. I'm a board member of the A.H. Fox Collectors Association and have access to the Ansley H. Fox production records, and while it is certainly not the most common choke combination, cylinder and full was specified from time to time.
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Re: 1894 haammeless chokes
It'll work for me. I appreciate your help.