I just picked up one of these today at a local gun show. The stock has not even been drilled for sling swivels and with a "B" "TT " barrel dating this one looks to be made in January of 1948. I got a friend that figured out how to remove the bolt as well as close the bolt in a decocked position on an empty chamber. This seemed to be slightly complicated doing it for the first few times. The rear sights are original Remington with the over all condition a ninety five percent. I am very please to find one that is this nice. In fact this is only the second one that I've seen first hand. I have seen a number of the non peep sighted versions and I'm glad that I held out for my 510-P.
Now the question(s): Do you have to remove the action from the wood to find the serial number. Are there just the two screws, one large, and then the small one at the rear of the trigger guard that need to be removed. Can you leave the bolt in place or should that also be removed.
Why is there a number "39" on the starboard side of my barrel.
Remington The TargetMaster Model 510-P
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dick_tracy1953
Remington The TargetMaster Model 510-P
I just jumped in and removed the one action screw so I answered my first question. However, I did not find a serial number under the wood. (Up date) I just read that the 510's did not get serial numbered until 1954.
M/510-P
Model 510s were (for some reason) given serial numbers in the late thirties. Remington then discontinued them until late in 1967 to conform with the 1968 Gun Control Act. I have seen the 1954 reference many times (and on factory info sheets), but it is not accurate.
The complicated push-pull sequence to remove the bolt is because the 510, 511 & 512 all share the same bolt. The 510 is designed to have the safety become active after every shot. The others are repeaters and the safety does not come into play after each shot.
John Gyde
The complicated push-pull sequence to remove the bolt is because the 510, 511 & 512 all share the same bolt. The 510 is designed to have the safety become active after every shot. The others are repeaters and the safety does not come into play after each shot.
John Gyde
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dick_tracy1953
John Gyde
Thanks for the additional information. I reviewed the limited information on the Remington website. That is where there is a refference to the 1954 date. If my memory serves me correctly, on one Remington that I handled there was a serial number on the barrel just ahead of the nose of the stock.
I have not test fired my rifle. Are you saying that the rifleman needs to disengage the safety before firing each shot.
On a side note, yesterday I found a Remington 511-P. It looked like it was factory drilled for a receiver peep but some one had affixed a kind of side mount scope rail. My guess is that this was accomplished by using the drill and tap method. Please let me know if the 511-P was factory d & t for a scope rail. I am interested in purchasing the rifle if it is correct as it is in ninety percent condition.
I have not test fired my rifle. Are you saying that the rifleman needs to disengage the safety before firing each shot.
On a side note, yesterday I found a Remington 511-P. It looked like it was factory drilled for a receiver peep but some one had affixed a kind of side mount scope rail. My guess is that this was accomplished by using the drill and tap method. Please let me know if the 511-P was factory d & t for a scope rail. I am interested in purchasing the rifle if it is correct as it is in ninety percent condition.
M/510P
Your 510-P should return to safe automatically after each shot. Yes, you will have to put the gun off safe with every shot.
The 511-P was made for a Point-Crometer rear sight and a patridge type from sight. The stock should be cut away slightly for the sight on its left side at the rear of the action. Depending on the year of production, it should have a grooved receiver. A very few were furnished drilled and tapped for a scope, but probably not a "P" model. The chances are that it was D & T by an owner at some time or another.
The 39 on the barrel is some sort of a proof mark. I haven't spent any time trying to figure out the meanings of the various marks.
John
The 511-P was made for a Point-Crometer rear sight and a patridge type from sight. The stock should be cut away slightly for the sight on its left side at the rear of the action. Depending on the year of production, it should have a grooved receiver. A very few were furnished drilled and tapped for a scope, but probably not a "P" model. The chances are that it was D & T by an owner at some time or another.
The 39 on the barrel is some sort of a proof mark. I haven't spent any time trying to figure out the meanings of the various marks.
John
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dick_tracy1953
Disengage Safety Then Fire...
John, after I read your reply I could hardly beleive that the rifleman needed to disengage the safety before firing because the bolt was factory designed to engage the safety upon closing.
You are correct but I still enjoy my Remington 510-P even if she is a little odd duck. Thanks for providing the information that I requested in my posts.
I will go back to the gun store and look over the Remington 511-P now that I have a better understanding about the original configeration.
You are correct but I still enjoy my Remington 510-P even if she is a little odd duck. Thanks for providing the information that I requested in my posts.
I will go back to the gun store and look over the Remington 511-P now that I have a better understanding about the original configeration.
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M/510P
Dick:
The logic behind the "Return to safe" on the 510 is.... With the repeaters (511, 512), when you take a shot and rack a new cartridge into the action you anticipate taking another shot. Having to work the safety would defeat the purpose of a repeater. The 510 needs a new cartridge to be hand fed after every shot. The process is the same every time a new cartridge is put in place; the safety is on. I think it was a great idea. It must have taken a bit of head scratching to figure out how to do that using the same bolt for all three rifles.
John
The logic behind the "Return to safe" on the 510 is.... With the repeaters (511, 512), when you take a shot and rack a new cartridge into the action you anticipate taking another shot. Having to work the safety would defeat the purpose of a repeater. The 510 needs a new cartridge to be hand fed after every shot. The process is the same every time a new cartridge is put in place; the safety is on. I think it was a great idea. It must have taken a bit of head scratching to figure out how to do that using the same bolt for all three rifles.
John
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dick_tracy1953
Remington 510-P
I did manage to test fire my Remington 510-P yesterday. At twenty five yards I was able to keep two fifteen rounds grouped on a quarter with zero flyers. My trigger needs some work if I am going to produce any dime sized groups. I'm not ready to correct my windage as it might be my trigger that needs attention. Needless to say my groups were decent but one inch to the right. This rifle will never be a 541-X although it is a fun little plinker.
Help: I noticed that I'm missing one of the two screws that set the windage slide after the rifle is zeroed. My local gunsmith did not have a correct screw. Is this a hard screw to locate.
Help: I noticed that I'm missing one of the two screws that set the windage slide after the rifle is zeroed. My local gunsmith did not have a correct screw. Is this a hard screw to locate.
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dick_tracy1953
Remington 511-P
Today I revisited the gun store that had the Remington 511-P for sale. Darn D&T Mister Bubba did work two screws into the top of the reciever to ruin a collectable rifle (just my opinion).
My friend is a tool and die maker. He wondered if the receivers were not interchangeable on a number of these Remington 22 rifles since the barrel provides the shooter with all of the information.... e.g. manufacturer, serial number, model, etc.
I'm just curious. I do not want to get burned by Mister Bubba nor do I wish to assemble a forgery.
My friend is a tool and die maker. He wondered if the receivers were not interchangeable on a number of these Remington 22 rifles since the barrel provides the shooter with all of the information.... e.g. manufacturer, serial number, model, etc.
I'm just curious. I do not want to get burned by Mister Bubba nor do I wish to assemble a forgery.