mod. 14 butt plate ?
mod. 14 butt plate ?
Another question for the wise folks of this site. I had to buy a replacement stock for my Grandpa's mod. 14 (ser. #C 668xx) from Gunstocks Inc. The old stock was broken and heavily modified, enough so that I'm not sure if the butt plate is the right one. It is 4 5/16" high x 1 3/8" wide with Remington UMC in a circle, and Trademark under the circle. Does this sound correct? Also, the stock and fore grip are checkered, but I don't know if it is from the factory. Is there anywhere that I can find pictures of the factory checkering to compare? Thank you for such an informative forum.
Re: mod. 14 butt plate ?
I appreciate the information.721/270Win wrote:I think that is the correct butt plate. There were a few different ones in the Model 14 and early Model 141s until the finally settled on the checkerd steel buttplate. There were three grades - Field, Premier and Peerless. If you have checkering on the wood but no metal engraving I think it's a Premier; the Peerless I think has both nice checkering (w/ nice wood) and metal engraving. I sometimes confuse the two higher grades, but you get the picture. You have the middle grade.
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oneoldsap
Re: mod. 14 butt plate ?
You didn't say what the buttplate material was . If it's steel it will be serial numbered to the gun on the back side . If it has original checkering it would be a premier grade and should have had better than average wood also . A picture of the forend would provide would provide a clue !
Re: mod. 14 butt plate ?
Thank You,oneoldsap wrote:You didn't say what the buttplate material was . If it's steel it will be serial numbered to the gun on the back side . If it has original checkering it would be a premier grade and should have had better than average wood also . A picture of the forend would provide would provide a clue !
The # on the steel buttplate (4671) matches the stock, but not the serial number on the gun.
Re: mod. 14 butt plate ?
Buttplates on the Model 14 came in five (5) styles, yours appears to be the most common which is almost straight (slight curve), is checkered steel with a circle logo. These are referred to as "shotgun style" and in your serial range it is VERY common to find the stock & plate with the same serial but different from the gun.
Remington did use a bakelite plate with larger logo on guns with serials under 30,000 that have the same configuration as the steel ones, these were used sparingly and because they were prone to chipping/cracking few survive.
They made two (2) styles of "semi-crescent" rifle style plates which have a tang that wraps around the bottom of the stock. The most common of these is serrated withouth the logo, the other is smooth with the logo, and the screw hole placement that goes in the end of the stock is different.
Finally is the rifle style "full crescent" plate that has a tang that wraps up over the top of the stock.
Hope this helps!
Jim
Remington did use a bakelite plate with larger logo on guns with serials under 30,000 that have the same configuration as the steel ones, these were used sparingly and because they were prone to chipping/cracking few survive.
They made two (2) styles of "semi-crescent" rifle style plates which have a tang that wraps around the bottom of the stock. The most common of these is serrated withouth the logo, the other is smooth with the logo, and the screw hole placement that goes in the end of the stock is different.
Finally is the rifle style "full crescent" plate that has a tang that wraps up over the top of the stock.
Hope this helps!
Jim
Jim Peterson