16ga. 1894

[camotrky]

I have an oppertunity to buy a 1894 16ga. damascus barrels. My concerns are barrels are 27.5 " likely cut?
was told chokes are cyl/mod.

If the barrels were cut 1/2" will that effect the p.o.i.?
I was told bores are perfect so being choked cyl/mod does that mean that the bores have been honed?
I am still waiting for pictures and information on the gun from the owner but these two items concern me, any input would be a great help.

[Researcher]

The barrels being cut might well change the point of impact, but just as likely it might not. Shooting patterns is the only way to know. Shotguns are strange beasts and you never really "know" until you try. I have one particularly touchy gun in my collection that shoots just fine with standard 1 ounce 12-gauge loads or heavier, but the left barrel shoots off towards Jones with low pressure 1100 fps 7/8 ounce loads?!?

Remington Arms Co. stamped the pellet counts of their original factory patterns on the bottom of the barrel lug. We believe 16-gauge guns were patterned with 1 ounce of #8 chilled shot going 409 pellets to the ounce. My 16-gauge Remington KE-Grade is stamped 288 for the right barrel and 293 for the left -- 288/409 = 70%, 293/409 = 71%. The bores on my gun measure .670" with .022" choke in each barrel.

[camotrky]

once I get more information I will post it. Thanks for the information so far. I have a 1900 16 ga. 30" barrels stamped 300 and 304 is that full and full?

[Researcher]

300/409 = 73.3% and 304/409 = 74.3%, sounds full and full to me.

[camotrky]

The gentleman emailed me back, the numbers on the lug are 277 279 is this mod/mod his gunsmith mic. the barrels and said it was choked cyl/light mod so the barrels have likey been honed or at lease the chokes opened up? I am still learning, what % is considered full, mod..... 277/409= 67%
279/409=68%

Thanks again for your help

[Researcher]

The Remington Arms Co. catalogues of the period the Remington Hammerless Doubles were built showed patterns they called cylinder, modified and full choke. They also published tables that showed the pellet counts for 40%, 60% and 75%, for loads of 7/8, 1, 1 1/8, 1 1/4 and 1 1/2 ounces.