According to the serial number table in Charles Semmer's book on Remington Doubles, a gun in the 130xxx range would be from 1904. Two-barrel sets seem to be rather scarce. On C-grades and higher their standard Damascus barrels and Ordnance Steel barrels were the same price. An extra set of barrels with forearm cost half the price of the gun when they were new.
On some makes, like Parker Bros. and A.H. Fox, it is fairly easy to determin if a gun started life as a two-barrel set or had the second set added later. I haven't examined enough Remington two-barrel sets to have a feel for this with them. Ordnance Steel barrels were introduced in 1897, and both Ordnance and Damascus were offered through the end of Remington double gun production in 1910.
We'd love to see some good pictures of your gun.
1894 grade C
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Re: 1894 grade C
The fit of both barrels looks really good.
Remington Arms Co. stamped the actual pellet counts of their test patterns on the rear barrel lug of their Model 1889 hammer doubles and their Model 1894 and 1900 hammerless doubles. If the number is three digits, that is the count, if the number is two digits a leading 3 is implied. From surviving hang-tags we know the standard load they used to target 12-gauge guns was 1 1/4 ounces of #8 going 511 pellets to the load. It appears the Ordnance Steel set is 2-inches shorter then the Etoile Damascus set. Your Damascus set would have patterned 360/511 = 70.5% from the right barrel and 366/511 = 71.6% from the left, or full and full. Your Ordnance set would have patterned 183/511 = 35.8% or cylinder from the right barrel and 260/511 = 50.9% or a lite modified.
With such a nice Remington gun, you need to check out Charles G. Semmer's book Remington Double Shotguns. It is available from the author 7885 Cyd Drive, Denver, CO 80221, for $60 plus $5 shipping and handling. It is invaluable if you are going to shoot, invest, collect or play in the Remington double gun field. Remington supplied a number of different pattern Damascus barrels on these old doubles. A picture of their salesman’s sample of the various styles of Damascus available is shown on page 275 of Semmer's book.
Remington Arms Co. stamped the actual pellet counts of their test patterns on the rear barrel lug of their Model 1889 hammer doubles and their Model 1894 and 1900 hammerless doubles. If the number is three digits, that is the count, if the number is two digits a leading 3 is implied. From surviving hang-tags we know the standard load they used to target 12-gauge guns was 1 1/4 ounces of #8 going 511 pellets to the load. It appears the Ordnance Steel set is 2-inches shorter then the Etoile Damascus set. Your Damascus set would have patterned 360/511 = 70.5% from the right barrel and 366/511 = 71.6% from the left, or full and full. Your Ordnance set would have patterned 183/511 = 35.8% or cylinder from the right barrel and 260/511 = 50.9% or a lite modified.
With such a nice Remington gun, you need to check out Charles G. Semmer's book Remington Double Shotguns. It is available from the author 7885 Cyd Drive, Denver, CO 80221, for $60 plus $5 shipping and handling. It is invaluable if you are going to shoot, invest, collect or play in the Remington double gun field. Remington supplied a number of different pattern Damascus barrels on these old doubles. A picture of their salesman’s sample of the various styles of Damascus available is shown on page 275 of Semmer's book.
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Re: 1894 grade C
While one can see from the C-Grade page in the 1903-04 Remington Arms Co. catalogue that 26-inch barrels were offered --
-- I'd be real suspecious that those full choke Damascus barrels have been cut. They should have at least .028" choke and probably more, if they are original.
-- I'd be real suspecious that those full choke Damascus barrels have been cut. They should have at least .028" choke and probably more, if they are original.
Re: 1894 grade C
Hi, From the two barrel set guns I have and seen if ordered with gun there is a number 1 and 2
below the serial number also they only had one forend. I have seen one C grade with two sets of barrels each one with its forend but one was 12 ga. other 10 ga. one set was add later.
I have a Model 1900 with 2 sets of barrels one 26in. one 30in the 26in. set was add after 1912.
Its a 12 ga. with one forend. These are all Damascus.
I have two B grades number 1 and 2 orderd when new.With one forend.
Note all of these barrels are Damascus.
Your C grade is just find does not look bad just used.Its hard to find 70% or better Remington
Doubles.
below the serial number also they only had one forend. I have seen one C grade with two sets of barrels each one with its forend but one was 12 ga. other 10 ga. one set was add later.
I have a Model 1900 with 2 sets of barrels one 26in. one 30in the 26in. set was add after 1912.
Its a 12 ga. with one forend. These are all Damascus.
I have two B grades number 1 and 2 orderd when new.With one forend.
Note all of these barrels are Damascus.
Your C grade is just find does not look bad just used.Its hard to find 70% or better Remington
Doubles.
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Re: 1894 grade C
Your muzzle measurements sound right. I guess I was carrying over from Ansley H. Fox and Parker Bros. when I said extra barrels "with forearm." I see from my catalogue page I posted it just says extra set of barrels, nothing about an extra forearm. The more I look at the pictures of your gun, the more I like it. What a great find!