This is one of the guns my dad left me but Im having trouble finding out exactly which one this is..here are all the pics at link below. The barrel is 34" long or 33 15/16" to be exact: It has the half cock feature but not the hammer drop feature. I really want to know what type of rolling block it is and what all the markings mean. Please see all pics and read descriptions and questions.. Hopefully I can bump in to someone who knows their stuff to solve this mystery.....
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HELP!!!!!Remington Rolling Block Rifle, Who Knows This Rifle
Re: HELP!!!!!Remington Rolling Block Rifle, Who Knows This Rifle
Your gun is a Remington Rolling Block Rifle made between 1874 and the late 1880’s. The HP stamp is the proof mark, after the rifle was manufactured the gun would be test fired. If the gun passed this test firing, it would then have the HP stamped on the barrel. The other stamps, V, B, H were inspection stamps placed on the various parts during manufacturing. The H.B.H cartouche was probably the final inspection stamp placed on the gun after final assembly by an inspector that would be working for the military organization or group that had place the order for that lot of rifles. It looks like some of the parts on the gun were nickel plated at some point in time; this would not be original to the gun. I have a gun in my collection with the same H.B.H. cartouche stamped on the buttstock, will have to pull it out of my safe this weekend and compare it to your rifle. My rifle is chambered in 43 Spanish, which was the most common cartridge the rolling block rifles and carbines were made in.
Have a good day,
Matt
Have a good day,
Matt
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hollywoodholly
Re: HELP!!!!!Remington Rolling Block Rifle, Who Knows This Rifle
Old remguy thanks for getting back to me.. I was beginning to think this was hopeless on this forum... lots of questions with zero replies seems to be the theme.. Thanks for all your info though it was helpful to learn these things.. I have a few more questions though. if the gun was made between the years stated why does it have the stamp with the earlier years even on it???? and if i was to put all the original rings back on it and find an original barrel plunger/cleaner what do you estimate it would be worth and what is its worth the way it sits now, if you know???? Lastly how can I find out the exact caliber I can shoot in this gun???
Re: HELP!!!!!Remington Rolling Block Rifle, Who Knows This Rifle
Hello Hollywoodholly,
Sorry for taking so long to get back to you. Don’t know why there is no more input from other members of this forum at times. Will try to answer some more of your questions. About the patent dates on the gun, I think it was common practice in the 1800’s to mark the firearms with all of the old and new patent dates for that gun. You will see Remington’s, colts, Winchesters, etc. of this period having a long list of patent dates stamped on them.
It hard to put a value on guns without being able to inspect it, if you go to some of the gun auction sites and search under rolling blocks you will see that prices will range for $350 to $700 for this model, it all depends on the condition and the collectability of the gun.
You could have a hard time find some of the parts you would need to bring this gun back to original condition, you may want to check with some of the plating shops in your area and see if they could reverse the process on the plated parts. I still have to try to fine my gun which has the same HBH marking on the stock, I have over 80 guns crammed into my safe and a lot of them have soft gun covers on them making it hard to pick out the one you are looking for, but I believe that the gun that I have was chambered in the 43 Spanish cartridge. You would have to do a chamber cast on the rifle to see what cartridge it would be chambered for if you wanted to shoot it. Some of your local gunsmiths should be able to do this for you, or you could do it yourself. Here is a link to a video showing how it is done http://www.midwayusa.com/General.mvc/Index/VideoLibrary go to the section on gunsmithing and then look for the video on chamber casting. The cerrosfe material can be purchased from Midway USA to do the chamber case. If your gun is 43 Spanish, you can fine all the reloading supplies you would need for it at Buffalo Arms http://www.buffaloarms.com/ hope this helps answer some of your questions.
Have a good day,
Matt
Sorry for taking so long to get back to you. Don’t know why there is no more input from other members of this forum at times. Will try to answer some more of your questions. About the patent dates on the gun, I think it was common practice in the 1800’s to mark the firearms with all of the old and new patent dates for that gun. You will see Remington’s, colts, Winchesters, etc. of this period having a long list of patent dates stamped on them.
It hard to put a value on guns without being able to inspect it, if you go to some of the gun auction sites and search under rolling blocks you will see that prices will range for $350 to $700 for this model, it all depends on the condition and the collectability of the gun.
You could have a hard time find some of the parts you would need to bring this gun back to original condition, you may want to check with some of the plating shops in your area and see if they could reverse the process on the plated parts. I still have to try to fine my gun which has the same HBH marking on the stock, I have over 80 guns crammed into my safe and a lot of them have soft gun covers on them making it hard to pick out the one you are looking for, but I believe that the gun that I have was chambered in the 43 Spanish cartridge. You would have to do a chamber cast on the rifle to see what cartridge it would be chambered for if you wanted to shoot it. Some of your local gunsmiths should be able to do this for you, or you could do it yourself. Here is a link to a video showing how it is done http://www.midwayusa.com/General.mvc/Index/VideoLibrary go to the section on gunsmithing and then look for the video on chamber casting. The cerrosfe material can be purchased from Midway USA to do the chamber case. If your gun is 43 Spanish, you can fine all the reloading supplies you would need for it at Buffalo Arms http://www.buffaloarms.com/ hope this helps answer some of your questions.
Have a good day,
Matt
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Ric Olivarez
model M1867 AMMUNITION
I've recently aquired an 1882 Remington M1867 roliing block rifle in very good condition. I'm looking for ammunition to buy for this rifle. The size is 11.7x42 . If anyone out there knows where to purchase the ammo, please contact me. I've called numerous companies with no luck! Thank's Ric...