Help to ID old shotgun

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Smokecreek
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Help to ID old shotgun

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Would someone please help me ID this shotgun? The serial number is 523. It is stamped twice on the removable forend, on the barrel and on the metal where the barrel mounts. The overall condition is not great, the blue is all worn off and looks like someone restrained the wood and some is on the metal. The most recent patent is April 1872. There is no engraving on the metal, does have a checkering on the stock. Thank you for any help!
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I'm not a shotgun expert, there certainly all those on here but that looks like a
E Remington & Sons Whitmore 1873 model.
She's a beauty even in that condition!
Smokecreek
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According to a gun book, this should be an 1873 and probably a first year gun. Says they made 5000 over like a 5 year period. Also, book said grade 2 had checkered stock and a rolled barrel. This barrel looks smooth and is not Damascus.
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Your gun is not a 1873 it is a 1878 or 1879 I need pictures of top of receiver and how is the forend held on wedge or pull down lever.

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The forend is removed by pulling down a lever in the middle of the wood. It's centered in the forend wood. When you say top of receiver, can you explain more. Not sure which part you are referring to. Thank you
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A couple more photos. Thanks for help..............
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The 1879 was the only lifter model that used the Deeley & Edge forearm attachment method. It is also the last lifter model made by Remington. The earlier models used wedges to attach the forearm.
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Does the serial number correspond with the 1879? I found that serial number on the barrel, on the water (can't recall that part name), on the forend and under the barrel release. They sure stamped the heck out of these old guns!
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According to the Charles Semmer book, the 1878 & 1879 models shared the same S/N block of 1 - 2400. If I read his book correctly, there were 17 '79s known to him (18 with your example) which would make your '79 a fairly rare bird.
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So with what certainty can I say this is in fact an 1879?
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Without the gun in hand I can only say it's a '78 or '79 model. All earlier lifter models had percussion fences and yours doesn't.

However, as is the case with many early Remingtons, there are exceptions. In this case there is at least one '78 known with a Deeley & Edge forearm release and at least one '79 with a wedge attachment. In any event, you most likely have a '79.
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I am in Reno, nv if anyone on the forum is in the area I can meet them. If more photos would help just let me know.
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Re: Help to ID old shotgun

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your gun is a 1879 what gauge is gun? I have two 1879 one with wedge and 1 Deeley& Edge release.... call 330-669-2138 Jake
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Jake, the gun is a 12 gauge. Spoke wih my father and he took the gun in on trade in the 1960s and thought it would be a good wall hanger. Here are more pics to solidify that it is a 1879!
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It will only allow three photos at one time and then I have to type a certain # of characters!
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