Remington NMA with 1858 & 1863 date?

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Oldrem98
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Remington NMA with 1858 & 1863 date?

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ImageI’m looking at what I believe is a New Model Army that’s been converted to .46 I am wondering about it as it has 2 patent dates: 1858 and 1863. I haven’t seen one like this before. Anyone have one like this?
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aardq
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Re: Remington NMA with 1858 & 1863 date?

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Hi Old Rem 98,

Benjamin Kittredge a Cincy gun shop owner worked out a 3-way deal. Rem would convert NMAs to 46rf, Kittredge would pay $3.26 per gun to S&W, who held the Rollin White, "bored through" patent. S&W kept $1 per gun and sent the rest to Remington. There were 4,540 of these conversions, and these were the first percussion guns of any make that were converted to cartridge revolvers. Many had the cylinders marked, "patent Apr 1856",which was the bored through patent date.

There are four versions:
1) Patent marking, without ejector
2) Patent marking, with ejector
3) No patent marking, with ejector
4) No patent marking, without ejector.

Because of the size of the cartridge, the new cylinder would only hold 5 rounds. It may be that the 46rf was chosen because Rem was making a carbine in that caliber. Hmmmm ...

Don Ware, says, in his book on large frame revolvers, that some collectors believe that the two dates on the barrel were only put on guns sold after the Civil War ended. He had no proof either way.

The gun has been re-blued as evidenced by the plum brown frame. Rem guns usually turned this color if they were re-blued using the hot blue process.

You still have a nice gun, and an example of the first cartridge conversion.

Enjoy you gun,
Daniel
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