Rolling Block Rifle - Unable to Identify

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RollingBlockHelp
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Rolling Block Rifle - Unable to Identify

Post by RollingBlockHelp » Wed Feb 06, 2019 10:04 am

Hello I have spent hours trying to find another similar gun in order to identify what we have here.
I have not been able to find another example with the patent info on the receiver like this one.
The receiver looks exactly like the U.S. Remington Model 1867 Navy Rolling Block pistol.
I hope someone on this board has seen one.
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Can anyone out there help me identify this gun?

Thanks.

wlw-19958
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Re: Rolling Block Rifle - Unable to Identify

Post by wlw-19958 » Thu Feb 07, 2019 3:58 pm

Hi There,

I can't remember where I read it but I read something about
"cadet" rifles being made from left over frames from the Navy
pistol contract. I will try to find this info but I think It was
either Remington or Schuyler, Hartley and Graham that did the
work.

Is yours still in the original caliber with stud extractor?

Good Luck!
-Blue Chips-
Webb

wlw-19958
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Re: Rolling Block Rifle - Unable to Identify

Post by wlw-19958 » Thu Feb 07, 2019 4:58 pm

Hi There,

I found in the Flayderman's Guide (9th. Ed.) a reference to the rifle. Quote:

"Remington Cadet Rifle With Model 1867 Pistol Action. (a.k.a. "Pistol
Framed Cadet Rifle." Not Illus.) Another Remington enigma
solved by careful study of old gun catalogs and the detailed story
of these "Cadets" by E. Hull in Feb., 2005 Gun Report. Clearly
described in the 1903-1904 catalog of Hartley & Co. (who then
owned the Remington Arms Company) as "...made from obsolete
material by Remington Arms Company especially for us."

Advertised by Hartley as their "REMINGTON CADET RIFLE NO. 205"
and intended for sale to the many military schools and cadet
corps quasi-military boys organizations popular during that turn-
of-the-century era."


Good Luck!
-Blue Chips-
Webb

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Re: Rolling Block Rifle - Unable to Identify

Post by oldremguy » Thu Feb 07, 2019 7:32 pm

They made some of the cadet rifles with rear sights and some with out rear sight. Here is a photo of my cadet rifle with the rear sight that I had on display at a gun show in 2012.
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Have a good day,
Matt

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