Chamber length on Model 1889 10-gauge ?

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Pauldoe
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Chamber length on Model 1889 10-gauge ?

Post by Pauldoe » Tue Jun 05, 2018 6:10 pm

Anyone know what was the 'standard' length of the chambers on a 10-gauge Remington Model 1889 double?
I have a grade 3 gun with Damascus barrels but no 10-gauge chamber gauge.
Thanks in advance!
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Re: Chamber length on Model 1889 10-gauge ?

Post by 2shooter » Tue Jun 05, 2018 8:24 pm

My Model 1889 10ga. grade one is 2 7/8 chamber that is standard unless its been ream.

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Re: Chamber length on Model 1889 10-gauge ?

Post by Pauldoe » Wed Jun 06, 2018 9:55 am

Thanks - That helps me out a lot!
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Re: Chamber length on Model 1889 10-gauge ?

Post by Researcher » Thu Jun 07, 2018 8:48 am

Remember, the 2 7/8 inch 10-gauge shells of the time frame that Remington Arms Co. was building the Model 1889, were not the "Super-Ten" with 4 3/4 drams equiv. of progressive burning smokeless powder pushing 1 5/8 ounce of shot at high velocity. That load was introduced in 1926. The heaviest payload 10-gauge factory loaded shells offered during the time frame the Model 1889 was offered was 1 1/4 ounce of shot, pushed by black powder, bulk smokeless powder (drams) or dense smokeless powder (grains). Here are the powder charge recommendations from the back of a 1902 vintage Model 1889 hang-tag --
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Re: Chamber length on Model 1889 10-gauge ?

Post by Pauldoe » Fri Jun 08, 2018 9:43 am

Thanks Researcher - very interesting hang tag.
I will only be using very light black powder loads for sure.
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Re: Chamber length on Model 1889 10-gauge ?

Post by dieNusse1 » Fri Jun 08, 2018 2:34 pm

I don't know about your experience with BP but the rule of thumb I use is an equal volume of powder to shot. Your '89 should be able to withstand this standard load but take it to a smith if there is any concern. In addition to BP, many of us still load low pressure smokeless loads for our '89s,'94s and 1900s.

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Re: Chamber length on Model 1889 10-gauge ?

Post by admin » Fri Jun 08, 2018 3:03 pm

So I was told blackpowder shouldn't be loose, if you put in less are you supposed to fill and with?
I've never loaded shotgun and only load blackpowder pistol ammo because you really have to but when I started asking everyone they said it can't be loose and fill it up until the bullet seated will snug it up.
True or crazy? Nothing has blown up yet.

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Re: Chamber length on Model 1889 10-gauge ?

Post by dieNusse1 » Fri Jun 08, 2018 4:05 pm

The overpowder wad will eliminate any loose powder issue in shot shells.

I seem to remember corn meal being used as a filler for rifle & pistol ammo but --- ???

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Re: Chamber length on Model 1889 10-gauge ?

Post by paul harm » Fri Jul 13, 2018 1:47 pm

All BP loads, either RB, slug, or in shotshells, should always have the projectile tight against the powder without any gap. You don't want the exploding powder to expand before it hits a resistance. It's quite easy with shotgun shells. Just put enough wads in the shell to get the correct height for a good crimp, or shorten the shell. In shotguns with BP one normally loads a equal amount of powder and shot, by volume. If roll crimping a thin, .028 card is used for over the shot. Too thick a card will normally lead to a hole in the center of the pattern. Good luck.

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Re: Chamber length on Model 1889 10-gauge ?

Post by paul harm » Fri Jul 13, 2018 1:57 pm

Cornmeal or cream of wheat is used for a filler in BP revolvers when loading light charges. With a .44cal NMA Remington if one is loading under 25grs the loading lever won't push the ball down far enough to seat on the powder so a filler is added. At least when I loaded for target shooting with a 20gr charge it's what I did. Now, 25 years latter I shoot 28 to 35gr charges with a " pill " under the ball. It's a small wafer made of bees wax, olive oil, and paraffin. It keeps the fowling soft in the barrel and stops chain fires. Then, no filler is needed.

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