recipe for 25 REM

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Jake007
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recipe for 25 REM

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I am a shot shell reloader for decades but never tried pistol/rifle reloading until I bought a Model 8 25 REM. Now I'm hooked on 25 REM so I have to feed a Model 14, 25 REM, too. I have 25 REM brass (thanks Chip) but need a safe load. I will appreciate your experience and advise!
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Re: recipe for 25 REM

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Find some older loading manuals and use the recommendations for the 25-35 Winchester, the 25 Remington is a rimless version of the 25-35 AND like I tell everyone USE round nose bullets only and avoid cast lead bullets. The 117gr bullet is available and is quite accurate.

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Re: recipe for 25 REM

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Thank you, Jim! Where do I find a 117 grain RN bullet? The sites I see say "out of stock" no back orders either? Any ideas?
25-35 uses the same recipe, right?
I appreciate your help to this novice.
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Yeah, that's a problem with a LOT of bullets these days but they are still being produced but shortages are causing people to hoard. I see them regularly at gun shows, smaller dealers, and even try looking at sites like Gunbroker. If you can find one box, it will last a long time. Buffalo Arms says they will take back orders and "expect" delivery of some before the end of the year, they are good people, and provide good customer service. They also sell fully loaded ammunition but that's probably on back order as well.............you will have to be patient. OH, don't try to get away with neck sizing and OACL is critical for feed on the Model 14, the shorter the better, and while you are trying to round up supplies invest in a Lee "Factory Crimp Die" its essential when loading for the Model 14.

Jim
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pjs
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Re: recipe for 25 REM

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I shoot the RCBS 257-120-sp bullet from both my Model 14 and my Model 8 with 17 grains of IMR4198 and it works very well in both.
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I appreciate the sage advise from you folks! Thank you!
Large rifle primers and loads to equal 25-06?
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Re: recipe for 25 REM

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Recipes from Handloader magazine #46. Hope that helps.

Warning! Notes: Remington cases used for all loads; velocities taken 10 feet from muzzle of 22-inch barrel, Remington Model 8 autoloader; temperature 90 degrees F.; to correct instrumental velocities given to MV, with simultaneous correction for temperature, deduct 50 fps from listed velocities; loads listed as giving "unacceptable accuracy" have been included to show velocity range, and as an indication of what may be expected as a result of load changes (Handloader Issue #46)

Wt. Bullet Powder Manufacturer Powder Charge Velocity (FPS)
117 Sierra F.B. Spz. IMR IMR-3031 26.5 2,344
Remarks: primer: Fed. 210; fastest 117-gr. load; good accuracy
117 Sierra F.B. Spz. IMR IMR-4895 25.0 2,074
Remarks: primer: CCI 200; most accurate 117-gr. load
117 Sierra F.B. Spz. Norma N-203 25.0 2,040
Remarks: primer: Norma; good average accuracy
117 Remington R.N. IMR IMR-3031 24.0 2,152
Remarks: primer: CCI 200; average accuracy
117 Remington R.N. IMR IMR-4064 26.0 2,068
Remarks: primer: CCI 200; fair accuracy
117 Remington R.N. IMR IMR-4064 27.5 2,267
Remarks: primer: CCI 200; unacceptable accuracy
117 Remington R.N. IMR IMR-4895 27.5 2,315
Remarks: primer: CCI 200; unacceptable accuracy
117 Remington R.N. Norma N-201 22.0 1,963
Remarks: primer: Norma; low velocity but accurate
117 Remington R.N. Norma N-203 24.0 1,956
Remarks: primer: Norma; low velocity but accurate
117 Remington R.N. Norma N-203 26.0 2,124
Remarks: primer: Norma; excellent accuracy
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Re: recipe for 25 REM

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I just looked at my loading notes for the .25 Remington. The cast load in my previous post(17grains of imr4198 and RCBS 257-120-SP) gives 1865 fps from my model 14 and 1782 from my model 8.
My jacketed load is 117 Hornady and 25 grains of 3031 for a velocity of 2214 average from the model 14. My notes say "shoots ok, mild pressure". I took this deer hunting last fall but did not get an opportunity to try it. It has not been tested in my Model 8 but I would expect it to be ok although I would only use it for hunting. For a plinking load I like to load the model 8 and 81 no heavier than required to operate the action.
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Re: recipe for 25 REM

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I thank you gentlemen. I am a newbe at this pistol/rifle reloading and appreciate your recipes and advise. I am learning a lot on these model 8/81 and 14's. Ain't this Reminton Society a great organization. Wish I could be in Vegas for the annual meeting!
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Re: recipe for 25 REM

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Jake,

My old stand-by is to duplicate the original 117 gr. loading with the Hornady RN, which is still in production. Period velocity was around 2,130 fps. IMR-4895 is exceptionally accurate in my rifle, followed by IMR-3031. I have used this combination to take a number of bucks over the years. It is a much more effective cartridge than the uninformed will lead you to believe.
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Thanks "Never~". I'll try that H4895 with the RN. Good advise and I appreciate your message!
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Re: recipe for 25 REM

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No sweat Jake! My notes indicate that 25.5 grs. of IMR-4895 will replicate that 2,130 fps velocity (in my rifle) and produces three-shot groups ranging from 2 3/8" to 2 7/8" at 100 yds.
Jake007
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Re: recipe for 25 REM

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Oh yes, IMR not the "H", sorry. I've been using a lot of H4895 in loads since I bought an 8#er in it! I appreciate your post!
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Re: recipe for 25 REM

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IMR 4895 "is" the powder to use for this caliber, very accurate. Did some comparison with the H4895 some years back and there was little difference in the grouping. I have a big old keg of the old Dupont IMR-4895 and it provided the best groups, sometimes older is better. Lots of good information provided by these postings.

Jim Peterson
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