RARE REMINGTON 14

[billyhov]

I have a Remington pump rifle that seems to be a model 14 in 32 rem. This gun has a 20 in. barrel overall length is 38.5 in. it has a shotgun style butt plate . the reciver has not been drilled for a tang sight .the front sight is also different from others I have .It has a twisty style magazine follower. the magazine plug is round with no brush guard.the model #is not stamped any where on the gun.the four digit serial #c 7762 barrel stampings are Remington Arms Union Metalic Cartrage Co.Remington works Ilion New York U.S.A.
Pendersons patents OTC 12 1909 and July 5 1910 RP 3 N J . This gun seems to be original
but is unlike any that I have seen .It may be some early model 14 variation .does anyone has any info on this.see attached photos

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[rem141]

I suspect that you gun is a cut off rifle, all rifles and carbines except some experimental models have the intregal front sight ramp that is machined as part of the barrel. We have records of 60 or more S/N 14s below your S/N and S/N 1000 that all have the normal 22 inch barrel. The expml. models would be under S/N 1000, even under 100.
The twisty follower, the end cap, the butt plate are all normal for your early gun. No model number is normal. The rear sight is different, looks like it started out as a number 1 wide buckhorn which is correct, but it has the top of the horns ground flat. Later guns had the number 3 wheel sight with the flat top and small notch.
The gun looks to be in excellent condition except for those two mods. Twenty inch carbines were popular in Savage and Winchester back then. Remington had discussions about making them too. In 1934 they did a study to possibly offer the new 141 in 30-30 Win and 300 Sav in 20 inch carbines. Instead they dropped the carbine and produced the half carbine 14/141 until the old 14 barrels were used up. However now those half 14/141 carbines are very collectable, many collectors don't know that they exist. There are also people who believe that Remington made a 20 inch carbine, in fact a famous gun writer mentioned his use of one and his fondness of it. But he did not claim it to be a factory gun.
That's my take on it, yours may be different,
Ken Blauch

[umcpumpgun]

Blly, I agree with Rem. 141 that the barrel has been cut. I have sn# 1720 & 1721 and are typical early 14's. The integral front riser is the key to being original. Also that is a late model Rem. buttplate. Nice gun and still a keeper as most of the early guns saw a lot of use. Take it hunting,as it is a hoot to get a deer with one of these. I have got a few with my 14's the last being with sn 1720 .30 cal.