How much of a bitsa is this Military Roller ?

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123rover50
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How much of a bitsa is this Military Roller ?

Post by 123rover50 » Sat Aug 10, 2019 4:33 pm

Its been a few years since I last posted. Time flies as one ages.
However I just picked this up. From what I can gather from my copy of George Laymans book on Military Remingtons, it is a Remington made Model 1867 Swedish Rifle in 12.17 x 44.
It has the 2 line address on the tang, concave BB with rimfire and centrefire pin holes. Short bayonet lug and the sight marking have been struck out and altered.
He mentions they should have American Walnut stock and a small steel nosecap that I dont think this has.
This has the number 18585 on the barrel , fore end wood and all bands.
The butt stock has the number 5797 on the LHS and an H over 1873 on the RHS. The fore end has 1868 on the RHS. The wood color looks very light as if its been refinished. and the BB and hammer look in too god a condition. It has a half cock notch.
Any thoughts?

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Re: How much of a bitsa is this Military Roller ?

Post by ehull » Sat Aug 17, 2019 12:19 am

This is a M1867 rifle made in Sweden using one of the 20,000 breech systems that Remington supplied, which were included in the contract for 10,000 completed rifles. The stock is not American walnut so it’s lighter. Nice condition!

123rover50
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Re: How much of a bitsa is this Military Roller ?

Post by 123rover50 » Sat Aug 17, 2019 2:56 pm

I thought it may have been refinished etc as the case colouring looks too good. If it has not had much use I wonder why the butt stock numbers dont match and if it had been assembled from bits.
But thanks for the confirmation.

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Re: How much of a bitsa is this Military Roller ?

Post by ehull » Sat Aug 17, 2019 3:42 pm

The frame lacks a date and SN, so it may have been reworked.

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