Another ID

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Hooknline
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Another ID

Post by Hooknline » Mon Apr 01, 2019 11:07 am

My wife recently inherited this, and I cant id it. The only marks are a “pa” on the action side. No other marks that I can see. It almost looks like a no 7
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marlinman93
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Re: Another ID

Post by marlinman93 » Wed Apr 03, 2019 2:53 pm

The barreled action is indeed a #7, although it's been buffed out and hot blued. Stocks are not original Remington, and the checkering and ivory inlays are not Remington.
Originally the barrel was rust blued, and the receiver was color casehardened. And the stocks would be a plainer checkering pattern.

Hooknline
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Re: Another ID

Post by Hooknline » Wed Apr 03, 2019 3:11 pm

Thank you for the insight. Overall, how bad do the modifications hurt the value do you think?

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Re: Another ID

Post by stanforth » Thu Apr 04, 2019 5:08 am

I personally like the modifications and think that they make the rifle desirable but in a different way.

marlinman93
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Re: Another ID

Post by marlinman93 » Fri Apr 05, 2019 8:38 am

I don't mind the modifications either, but they certainly hurt the value considerably. Mostly the hot blued finish, as the stocks are kind of neat. But the ivory inlays, and longer than normal forearm hurt the eye appeal of what is actually a nice looking buttstock and checkering job.
In my opinion the decreased value of such modifications is the cost of making the gun correct again, or close to it. The buttstock could be left alone, or replace the ivory with wood inserts. The forearm could be replaced, shortened, or reworked to look closer to original. Cost on that could vary from not much for an owner, to well over $1,000 if you paid someone to make original style stocks.
The color case work, and rust bluing could easily end up around $750-$1000 if it's just handed over to a gunsmith to do all polishing, and finish work.
But a #7 is an extremely rare and desirable gun! So even with the present modifications I think it's still worth probably $2,000-$2500 as is, if the bore is in nice condition. Maybe $500 less if the bore is poor.

Hooknline
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Re: Another ID

Post by Hooknline » Fri Apr 05, 2019 12:13 pm

Thanks for the in depth info. This was left to my wife by her dad who just passed, so I doubt any work will be done to it to correct it. For now, its part of her memory of him. At least we know what it is now.

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Re: Another ID

Post by marlinman93 » Fri Apr 05, 2019 3:07 pm

That's good to hear an heirloom will be kept and appreciated! I'd keep it too, but I'm biased since I love Remington single shot sporting rifles!

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Re: Another ID

Post by admin » Sat Apr 06, 2019 4:42 am

Gosh I hate to open my mouth just so someone can tell me I'm wrong. (but that's ok)
But that's not a #7, to me it looks like someone did a real good job on maybe a NY Military.
It's missing a screw, the breach and hammer are not right.

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Re: Another ID

Post by marlinman93 » Sat Apr 06, 2019 8:13 am

admin wrote:
Sat Apr 06, 2019 4:42 am
Gosh I hate to open my mouth just so someone can tell me I'm wrong. (but that's ok)
But that's not a #7, to me it looks like someone did a real good job on maybe a NY Military.
It's missing a screw, the breach and hammer are not right.
I think you're right! Missing two screws. One on the receiver, and one on the breech block. Plus I totally missed the extra plate with two screws on the side of the action. Appears it's a pistol converted into a #7 rifle clone.

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