Hi everyone, 1st time on here.
I just acquired an 1858 Rem. 44.
Serial no. 83,434 on the frame.
Serial no. 83,385, on the Barrel.
Great shape, patina is freckled
Good bore.
Has a cartouche on the left grip.
Actually looks like 2 cartouche's, top one scratched out.
Can you help me on a date made, and who the inspector is on the cartouche?
Thanks very much for your help!
Sorry no pics yet, I can't figure out how to send them.
Just acquired an 1858 Remington New Army 44 cal
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Re: Just acquired an 1858 Remington New Army 44 cal
Hi,
Your revolver was made in July of 1864. If you can read the cartouche letters we may be able to determine the inspector.
Bill
Your revolver was made in July of 1864. If you can read the cartouche letters we may be able to determine the inspector.
Bill
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Re: Just acquired an 1858 Remington New Army 44 cal
Got 2 pics posted! Hopefully Bill you can see the cartouche letters. Looks like a scratched out box above it??????
Thank you for my date information!
Makes me very happy!
7-1864
The barrel has a lower serial number than the frame.
Figured if rebuilt, (repaired) it would have a higher date!
Thank you for my date information!
Makes me very happy!
7-1864
The barrel has a lower serial number than the frame.
Figured if rebuilt, (repaired) it would have a higher date!
Re: Just acquired an 1858 Remington New Army 44 cal
It looks to me to be a two-letter cartouche. The only identified inspectors of Remington revolvers with two letter cartouches were George Palmer (GP) and Benjamin Hannis (BH). It looks like GP to me. The differences in barrel and frame serial numbers usually occurred because Remington used parts from previously rejected revolvers on later revolvers. If a revolver had a rejected frame the barrel and other components would be removed and used on later revolvers. The rejected frame would be marked with a large “C” and sometimes used on a civilian revolver if the reject was minor and did not affect the operation of the revolver.
Bill
Bill
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Re: Just acquired an 1858 Remington New Army 44 cal
Very interesting info Bill!
That makes a lot of sense on using the parts!
I suspected 2 letters also!
Just having a hard time ciphering the script.
That makes a lot of sense on using the parts!
I suspected 2 letters also!
Just having a hard time ciphering the script.
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Re: Just acquired an 1858 Remington New Army 44 cal
Had to fire some rounds through her! What a BLAST it was!
Black lines are how many shots grouped together, off hand, primers kept falling off, Lol learned to crimp them first!
Also 777 is FF needs to be FFF.
Black lines are how many shots grouped together, off hand, primers kept falling off, Lol learned to crimp them first!
Also 777 is FF needs to be FFF.
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Re: Just acquired an 1858 Remington New Army 44 cal
I just found the "BH" cartouche, on a hand grip.
I do believe that is the stamp on this 58 Remington.
Mine is missing the straight line in the "B",
But both of the round curves are there.
What do you guys think?
I do believe that is the stamp on this 58 Remington.
Mine is missing the straight line in the "B",
But both of the round curves are there.
What do you guys think?
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