Matt,
Look very closely: they are supposed to be different.
Ed
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- Sat Jan 20, 2018 11:28 pm
- Forum: RR / Pre -1899
- Topic: Help ID’ing an old rolling block
- Replies: 30
- Views: 12009
- Sun Jan 07, 2018 10:55 am
- Forum: Remington Bayonets
- Topic: Whitney bayonets for Remington rifles
- Replies: 7
- Views: 17685
Re: Whitney bayonets for Remington rifles
John McAulay’s new book on Navy Rifles, 1866-1917, documents that the Navy bought their 256 Keene Rifles WITHOUT bayonets. Thus, there is no such thing as an unique “Keene rifle bayonet.” Hartley & Graham had to add altered Whitney bayonets when they resold the surpluses rifles.
- Mon Dec 11, 2017 7:58 am
- Forum: RR / Pre -1899
- Topic: Hybird Carbine?
- Replies: 4
- Views: 2413
Re: Hybird Carbine?
Sad to see such a nice M1870 frame and buttstock put to such use by “bubba” to make a carbine!
- Sun Dec 03, 2017 11:23 pm
- Forum: RR / Pre -1899
- Topic: TINNED MILITARY ROLLING BLOCKS.
- Replies: 2
- Views: 2061
Re: TINNED MILITARY ROLLING BLOCKS.
What are the tang markings on this rifle? Is the breechblock concave at the bottom or flat?
- Tue Oct 31, 2017 10:52 pm
- Forum: General comments or discussion
- Topic: Can't insert photos
- Replies: 10
- Views: 8747
Re: Can't insert photos
Jim, I see the photo just fine - your revolver and holster, cartridge box, etc.
Ed
Ed
- Sun Oct 08, 2017 12:17 pm
- Forum: Remington Bayonets
- Topic: Whitney bayonets for Remington rifles
- Replies: 7
- Views: 17685
Re: Whitney bayonets for Remington rifles
Whitney had started using under barrel bayonets by 1878, and I suspect it was just a way to differentiate his product from Remington. European countries had adopted this style by then. Also, Whitney was using blades from old, surplus US bayonets, and just adding a new socket. Perhaps Whitney wanted ...
- Sat Oct 07, 2017 9:07 am
- Forum: Remington Bayonets
- Topic: Whitney bayonets for Remington rifles
- Replies: 7
- Views: 17685
Re: Whitney bayonets for Remington rifles
These were Whitney surplus, so they were obtained very cheaply. All it took was widening the slot and making the cleaning rod 3/4 inch shorter to use them. This was in the late 1890s into the early 1900s, when the military rolling block was no longer popular, so reducing the cost was important.
- Mon Oct 02, 2017 10:34 pm
- Forum: Remington Bayonets
- Topic: Whitney bayonets for Remington rifles
- Replies: 7
- Views: 17685
Whitney bayonets for Remington rifles
Who else has a sample of this bayonet (lower example in the photo)? This is a Whitney under barrel bayonet, made beginning on about 1882; it was later modified to fit Remington rolling block and Keene rifles by enlarging the stud slot to the larger Remington size. Many thousands were remanufactured,...
- Wed Sep 13, 2017 11:50 pm
- Forum: RR / Pre -1899
- Topic: 1863 Remington rolling block Navy Carbine
- Replies: 9
- Views: 4456
Re: 1863 Remington rolling block Navy Carbine
The Model 1867 Navy carbine was adopted in that year and used for a decade until declared obsolete. They were assigned to ships, not to individual sailors. Starting in the late 1870s the Navy disposed of them to surplus arms dealers. Many were altered to .43 caliber with new barrels. Yours sounds li...
- Wed Sep 06, 2017 10:53 pm
- Forum: RR / Pre -1899
- Topic: Try Try Again
- Replies: 4
- Views: 2868
Re: Try Try Again
P.S. SH&G shipped another 90 "browned" .46 RF carbines to Mexican dealers Wexell & Deress On. Oct. 7, 1974. Another 20 such carbines were shipped to Panama on Dec. 3; with 20 more on Jan. 20, 1875. 30 more were sent to A. Hoffman on Dec. 11. 68 were sent from the warehouse to the s...
- Wed Sep 06, 2017 10:33 pm
- Forum: RR / Pre -1899
- Topic: Try Try Again
- Replies: 4
- Views: 2868
Re: Try Try Again
In records dated Oct., 1874, dealer Schuyler, Hartley & Graham had on hand a total of 120 Remington carbines in .46 RF. These are not annotated as "Old Model," or the split breech type, so they were likely similar to yours. Of these, 60 were "brown" (i.e. blued) and 60 were s...
- Fri Aug 04, 2017 11:46 pm
- Forum: RR / Pre -1899
- Topic: This is a frustrating Board
- Replies: 8
- Views: 4675
Re: This is a frustrating Board
I echo that comment. The sporting style buttstock just doesn't go with the presence of a saddle bar. The tang markings and caliber point to an early 1870s gun. Without any Remington production records, these guns made in small quantities may never be "identified."
- Wed Jul 26, 2017 1:01 pm
- Forum: RR / Pre -1899
- Topic: Light Baby Carbine, Really like some help on this one.
- Replies: 2
- Views: 2241
Re: Light Baby Carbine, Really like some help on this one.
The two-line tang marking clearly dates this gun to circa 1870 - well before the 1880s Light Baby Carbine.
- Sat Jul 22, 2017 9:34 pm
- Forum: RR / Pre -1899
- Topic: Photos for Light Baby Carbine
- Replies: 2
- Views: 2120
Re: Photos for Light Baby Carbine
What dimensions are your photos. It seems that dimensions as well as resolution are important.
- Mon Jun 12, 2017 10:54 pm
- Forum: RR / Pre -1899
- Topic: Help For Dating a Remington Rolling Block Military Rifle
- Replies: 6
- Views: 3691
Re: Help For Dating a Remington Rolling Block Military Rifle
Joe: Not only does the Remington .43 Spanish Model rifle accept the .42 Russian Berdan, but during the Franco-Prussian War the French bought only the .42 Russian cartridges (millions) for use in all of their .43 Spanish arms: Remington rolling block and Peabody rifles. Of course, they used the .42 c...