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Thanks for the info. Yes, I know what you mean - he is not one of my favorites, either!

My long-standing procedure on GB, and other such, is to look at the pictures first. IF I see something interesting, then, and only then, will I read the sales pitch.

Any idea what this is? For some reason it has intrigued me through several iterations on GB, even though there is not much left. First off, despite the seller's claim, I'm not sure of caliber. Cannot tell if it is rf or cf, but the barrel at muzzle sure looks like .58 to me. Even if really is .50-70...

Hi Matt, Thanks for the info on the Navy carbine. I had not tried to cover all of the points. The 1867 Cadet, also made at SA (and also pictured on my website) has that same early extractor, but a SLIGHTLY different arrangement of the proofmarks. It was even thought at one time that they used receiv...

Matt, No, the refurbs - which are very desirable frontier collectibles, but not "rare", were a different animal entirely, retaining nearly all of their original parts, furniture, etc. The main thrust of that program was simply to convert them to use a metallic cartridge. The 1870 trials ar...

The rare 1870 Trials Carbine was not a Navy weapon. It was competing, along with the Allin (trapdoor), Sharps, and Ward-Burton systems, for issuance to the army. Each of the four types was issued as a rifle and a carbine - I am fortunate to have three (hopefully soon to be all) of the rifles and two...

Matt, I have had similar situations with my musket-length Springfields, and have never found a longer case either. But, you have a choice that I do not. If this is going to be a one-time, or infrequent, occurance, had you considered removing the buttstock? Unless it is a pristine specimen with untou...

While the emphasis is on the rifles - and I am a Springfield collector, only 'involved' with Remingtons because of the several RBs made at SA in the 1867-72 period - there is an acoutrements chapter. I cannot speak for the transformed rifle, but the .58 cal M1865 "First Allin" used CW pouc...

You're welcome, Dave. SA did not make NEW 2-band 1866s. The rifles referred to were shortened due to muzzle damage. The stocks utilized were M1863 type one (which had used clamping bands) so there should be no filled spring cut (you did not respond to that question). The rods on genuine SA-converted...

You appear to possibly have a Springfield M1866 Short Rifle, with a Remington contract lockplate. SA did, around 1870/71, shorten some (around 1100) 3-band 1866s, having excessive muzzle wear/damage, to the 52" length of the current Model 1868. However, this type of work was also done by variou...

Thanks Ed, that's pretty much what I had figured. If the association had been to anywhere but NY, who did use .50-70s (and RBs at that) longer than most, I would not even have asked.

Another "cross-over question: I recently acquired one of the 1000 .50-70 RRBs made at Springfield Armory for the 1870 Trials (which resulted in the continuation of the "trapdoor" in the U.S. service). Have now heard from the previous owner, who gave me a statement that the rifle had b...

Hi Ed, Sometimes, one man's negative is another man's positive. With all due respect to my surroundings (you know that I'm in unfamiliar territory here) - I really did NOT want the barrel to have been MADE by Remington - I'd much prefer that the stamp (perhaps) indicate ownership at one time. SO - i...

Have just acquired a Springfield TD with a very odd barrel. It APPEARS to be of SA manufacture, but am not completely certain. It has 6 (narrow) lands and grooves, and a rapid twist, but a standard 2.1" chamber, throated for a paper-patched bullet. It is marked "Remington Arms Co., Ilion, ...

I'm basically a Springfield collector (1865-1915), but do have some interest in early rolling blocks, since several versions of same were made by the government, under license, at SA, from 1868 through 1872. Author of the 2006 book "The .58 and .50 Rifles and Carbines of The Springfield Armory,...