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Hi There,

You will get more response if you post in the Post 1898
section.

Cheers!
Webb

Hi There,

Your rolling block appears to be a second model (with bar type extractor)
and stepped sides. This could have either the concave breach (early) or
the flat breach (after August 1870). The configuration appears to be a
typical "Spanish" model but you will have to check the chamber ...

Hi There,

The short barrel rifle is often called a musketoon but I
don't know of any that were ordered by New York. Also,
there looks to be a little braze exposed on the base of
the front sight. A Remington mounted front sight would
have been brazed on more neatly and not have any exposed ...

Hi There,

I will have to obtain a copy of that book. I am interested in
that period of time and the more info I can get, the better.

According to George Layman, Remington did have trouble
collecting from the Egyptians. The U.S. State Dept. intervened
and 1877 secured payments for all rifles ...

Hi There,


From what little I've gathered concerning the company's bankruptcy it was bad business decisions made by the brothers. One huge reason was their decision to concentrate on military sales, and then compounding it by not representing themselves in contract agreements with foreign ...

Hi There,

I always wondered why E. Remington & Sons went bankrupt.
They had plenty of sales and should have been a very successful
company. Unfortunately, the records have been lost/destroyed
long ago and we are left to speculate. Hartley was a very success-
ful business man and knew the ...

Hi There,

Sorry if I misinterpreted the tone of your previous post.
I should have been more forthcoming about the prices
The Army and Navy paid for converting their revolvers
from percussion to breach loading cartridge revolvers.
This is what I thought you were referring to. My mistake ...

Hi There,

You are letting this discussion get under your skin. Calm down and take a breath.
The price the Navy paid for their conversion included the replacement of all
broken and damaged parts and complete refinishing. That is a LOT of labor.

Now we are way off topic here. You say they would ...

Hi There,


I would agree that reworking tangs would be easy to do, and take very little time. But Sporting rifles had barrels marked and whether they were octagon or round, removing a rollstamp and blending the area that needs draw filing to eliminate the old rollstamp takes far more effort to do ...

Hi There,

Cost of labor was a lot less back then. Plus, I don't think
Winchester or Hartley wanted to promote the previous
owners. The point is, they did it to the tang markings
on the military rifles left in stock.

As to civilian rifles, I am not sure but if they went to this
much trouble ...

Hi There,

I don't have any experience with the No: 1-1/2 action but
E. Remington & Sons filed for bankruptcy in 1886 and the
court ordered the sale of the Company and its assets to
recompense the creditors. An executor was appointed by the
court to handle the sale on behalf of the creditors ...

Hi There,


I missed the extractor screw on the left side that Webb caught, which as he said makes this an early black powder #1 action.

Actually, what tipped me off was the tang markings (ending in 1866).
There were No. 5 frames drilled and tapped for the bar type extractor
retainer screw ...

Hi There,

Marlinman93 is correct on most of his observations but the main
part of the frame (with the upper tang, etc.) is not from a number
five action. Based on the upper tang markings, this is a No. 1
second type with bar type extractor. I don't think Remington made
this frame type past ...

Hi There,

I looked at your rifle/carbine and I noticed a couple of
things. First off, the patent date should be April 17 1866
(not 1868). It can be hard to read sometimes.

I agree that the barrel was originally a rifle barrel that was
shortened and a new front sight added. What I find curious ...

Hi There,

I don't think I can add much to your knowledge base seeing
that you have done a lot of research already. As you prob-
ably already have discovered, the 1876 Navy Carbines are
quite rare and an unmolested one is very valuable. The only
ones I've hear about in 50-70 are the ones that ...