More questions about 700's

[ole fred]

I hope it's not against the rules to question ongoing auctions, if so, delete this.

Check this out:

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewIt ... =161785048

What's with the stock? It appears to be a CDL, but without the grip and nose caps.

It amazes me what these no longer available calibers will bring on Gunbroker. IIRC, a 257 Roberts in excellent shape brought over a grand last fall. I'd love to have one, but not at that price.

I just checked my saved auctions and found that one. Check this out:

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewIt ... =158054840

I see that it has the same kind of stock as the one I asked about above. What gives?

[Wulfman]

That style is called the "Classic". The following was copied from the Remington site a couple of years ago. The reason it looks so much like the "CDL" is that "CDL" stands for "Classic Deluxe". They basically took the Classic and added the black fore-end tip and grip cap.
I happen to have one from the 1988 edition in .35 Whelen. The Classic happens to be my favorite stock style......no fore-end tips or grip caps......just wood......simplicity and functionality. Kind of like an ADL with a hinged floorplate.

Den


The Model 700 Classic was first introduced in 1978, sixteen years after the
grand conception of the Model 700. Initial chamberings included: 22-250 Remington,
243 Win, 6mm Remington (1978-1983), 7mm Remington Magnum, 270 Win, 30-06 Springfield.
In 1981 the Model 700 Classic was designated annually as a Limited Edition in a single select, classic caliber. The six original calibers remained a part of the standard product line until 1985. The 2005 offering marks the 25th and final classic cartridge offered in this storied series.

Year........Model No....Caliber

1978-1985...............Various
..............................22-250 Remington
..............................243 Win
..............................6mm Remington
..............................270 Win
..............................7mm Remington Magnum
..............................30-06 Springfield

1981.........5758........7mm Mauser (7x57mm)
1982.........5850........257 Roberts (24" barrel)
1983.........5846........300 H&H
1984.........5754........250 Savage
1985.........5756........350 Remington Magnum
1986.........5898........264 Win Mag
1987.........5899........338 Win Mag
1988.........5901........35 Whelen
1989.........5903........300 Wby Mag
1990.........5907........25-06 Remington
1991.........5909........7mm Weatherby
1992.........5913........220 Swift
1993.........5852........222 Remington
1994.........5759........6.5x55mm Swedish
1995.........5875........300 Win Mag
1996.........5877........375 H&H Mag
1997.........5873........280 Remington
1998.........5876........8mm Remington Magnum (with sights)
1999.........5871........17 Remington
2000.........6344........223 Remington
2001.........6342........7mm-08 Remington
2002.........6348........221 Remington Fireball
2003.........5869........300 Savage
2004.........6352........8mm Mauser (8x57mm S)
2005.........6310........308 Win



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[ole fred]

Well, I learned something new - which is easy for me to do here.

From what you're saying, the "Classic" would be a step down from the standard CDL. Right? I guess the original price would be the determining factor as to value. Was the Classic originally offered for less money than the CDL or BDL?

[Wulfman]

Well, I learned something new - which is easy for me to do here.

From what you're saying, the "Classic" would be a step down from the standard CDL. Right? I guess the original price would be the determining factor as to value. Was the Classic originally offered for less money than the CDL or BDL?

You won't catch me saying that. They're just another "variation". Some variations cost more or less than others......it doesn't make them better or worse as they're still the same basic "Model 700". Unfortunately, they discontinued the Classics. The CDL wasn't introduced until 2005.....the same year the last Classic was available. I really don't know how they compared in price as I bought my last "new" (from a store) rifle in 1988.....and that was my 35 Whelen (for $400.00). I've never really been that fond of the black fore-end tips and grip caps, so consequently I own more ADLs than BDLs. For many years, they didn't list the prices in the catalogs, so it's hard to say, but in the first years, I think the Classic was priced just a little below the BDL.

I would liked to have acquired one in .257 Roberts, but I own two 722s in that caliber, so it wouldn't be something I would "need". All of my firearms are (or have been) "used". I'm not a "collector", as such. I just scouted the local gun shops over the years and looked for bargains or some that were in need of a little TLC. For the most part, they usually appreciate in value. You can't say that for lots of other things. Plus, you get to use them while their value is going up.


Den

[remington600]

Well your kind of comparing apples to oranges. The classic will ussually bring a little more money because they were made in one caliber for one year each year. The CDL is just another rifle that they make multiple calibers and pretty much the same with possible additions each year. If your looking for more of an investment put the CDL back on the shelf. If your buying a hunting gun go with the CDL. For hunting I would buy the model 7 or the mountain rifle. The CDL just seems like too much rifle, but they do offer some good calibers.

[travis301]

Den,
Do you know when Remington stopped using the "green box" for their 700's? Im guessing around 96-97? Also,does anybody know the years the j-lock was used? Im trying to put together a little informal booklet and I dont have the catalog years 02,03,07,08,09 which is where I think the j-lock would be mentioned.Thanks,Travis

PS-If you need info on the earlier years I should have it as I have those catalogs and also Lacy's book on the 700

[Wulfman]

Den,
Do you know when Remington stopped using the "green box" for their 700's? Im guessing around 96-97? Also,does anybody know the years the j-lock was used? Im trying to put together a little informal booklet and I dont have the catalog years 02,03,07,08,09 which is where I think the j-lock would be mentioned.Thanks,Travis

PS-If you need info on the earlier years I should have it as I have those catalogs and also Lacy's book on the 700

Travis,

I sure don't. (shows how many "new" guns I've bought in the last 20 years.....none)
In fact, I wasn't aware they quit using the green boxes.
I was wondering about that "J-Lock" thingie awhile back and wondering when it was that I had seen them. I have those years of catalogs except '02, but I've never seen anything in them about that lock. I was thinking it was in the late '90's......during the Clinton years.....when all the anti-gun folks were trying their best to make our lives miserable. But, I have some of those catalogs, too......and don't recall seeing any mention of the locks in there, either.


Den