Rolling block with a wiping stick???

[Longknife]

Hello, I'm new here, lots of good Remington info!!!! I have a question, I picked up a 45-70 rolling block rifle someone was building on an original action. They had provisions to attach thimbles for a wiping stick, and the forend was drilled for one too. Did Remington ever do this? THANKS, Ed

[Tony Kastella]

Hello, I do not know much about what you are asking but as a new rolling block shooter I was thinking maybe i need to get a wood dowl about the same diameter as my barrel to use it as a cleaning stick after each shot! thanks for the idea! Tony K

[charlielima]

Hello, I'm new here, lots of good Remington info!!!! I have a question, I picked up a 45-70 rolling block rifle someone was building on an original action. They had provisions to attach thimbles for a wiping stick, and the forend was drilled for one too. Did Remington ever do this? THANKS, Ed

Little late answer, but am FNG so just found it.
What little I have been able to find, no mention of a RB as you describe, but Ballard equipped their #5 Pacific & #5 1/2 Montana models with thimbles & a wiping stick.
Since most rifle Mfgs. in the late 1800's would build pretty much what a customer wanted, who's to say it couldn't happen?


"It is better to die a free man, weapon in hand, than to live life as a coward and a slave"
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[john hamilton]

Please don't use a dowel as a wiping stick or ram rod. It will splinter if stressed and long, sharp pieces will go into your hand.

All of the old gun places like Dixie Arms carry hickory ramrods which are flexible and strong.

[marlinman93]

Remington did not offer a model like the Ballard #5 Pacific with wiping rod, but there were guns built by gunsmiths in the late 1800's called "Gemmer" style Rolling Blocks, which used a stock and wiping rod in thimbles as you described.-Vall

[rudybolla]

I could never figure out why not. Husqvarna (who took rolling blocks to new heights and varieties) offered several sporting models that were fullstocked and had wooden cleaning rods. I have three: No 1 in 12.7x44R; No 4 in 20 gauge rifle; and Model 33 in 9.5x47R. All are extremely well made.

[marlinman93]

Hey Rudy! Nice Husqvarna rolling blocks! I also have one of the T33A rollers, and it's as good as it gets in my opinion! I love the Huskies!

[rudybolla]

Hey Marlinman. I had a couple of pistol grip models, but when I saw the 33 with straight wrist and target sights, I traded them off. I have let a couple of others slip from my grasp, such as this MONSTER ROLLER (No 27 with a HUGE 36" barrel in 500/450 Express). But it was a beast to even haul to the range.

Side view.

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No 27, No 1 and Model 33

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Bores.

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[Yellowhouse]

Stop please! I can't stand it! I'd just about trade off a bunch for any one of those!


The Gemmer or Ballard look seems sexy but wood ramrods pick up dirt and its probably not a good idea excelpt for show. In other words, wipe the bore with a safe rod when no one is looking.

[marlinman93]

Stop please! I can't stand it! I'd just about trade off a bunch for any one of those!


The Gemmer or Ballard look seems sexy but wood ramrods pick up dirt and its probably not a good idea excelpt for show. In other words, wipe the bore with a safe rod when no one is looking.

The Hukies don't have wooden rods, they are steel!

[marlinman93]

Rudy,
I love that big old hevy barreled one there! Not too practical for carrying, but it sure has a great look to it!
I'm getting ready to build up another #1 from the Sporting rifle action I just acquired. I plan to put a pretty heavy, long, .40-65 Green Mountain barrel on it. Hadn't thought of another full stocked gun, but now that's another option I'll have to think about!

[rudybolla]

Stop please! I can't stand it! I'd just about trade off a bunch for any one of those!


The Gemmer or Ballard look seems sexy but wood ramrods pick up dirt and its probably not a good idea excelpt for show. In other words, wipe the bore with a safe rod when no one is looking.

The Hukies don't have wooden rods, they are steel!

The big bore ones have wooden rods. I have seen pics of originals. The M33 had a smaller metal rod. I have seen them mostly in brass, but these are replacements.

[marlinman93]

Thanks Rudy! I've never seen the big bores, and my T33A is a steel rod.

[rudybolla]

Rudy,
I love that big old hevy barreled one there! Not too practical for carrying, but it sure has a great look to it!
I'm getting ready to build up another #1 from the Sporting rifle action I just acquired. I plan to put a pretty heavy, long, .40-65 Green Mountain barrel on it. Hadn't thought of another full stocked gun, but now that's another option I'll have to think about!

Before I stumbled into my No 1 fullstock, I had been desperately looking for an early No 4 in 12.7x44R. No luck, so I put together all of the components except for wood and was going to have a gunsmith bbuild me one. But then the round barrel No 1 came along for a good trade and I took that and put a bunch of money into its restoration. Then I found the No 4 in 20 gauge rifle!!

[marlinman93]

I'm a bit confused Rudy? Isn't the #4 a small framed Roller in .22 or .32 rimfire? Or is there another "#4 Danish" that I don't know about?
My #4 is a little guy, not suitable for anything but .22RF. As you can see a lot smaller than my Hepburns: