Rolling block

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hopeless

Rolling block

Post by hopeless »

Any one know what cal. this gun is: Pat. May 3D Nov 1864 April 17th 1886
Centre Fire.....154 stamped on front of trigger guard block, bottom of barell by reciever. same number stamped on first and 3rd band clips on front fore stock. sight marked in yards, 1-4 lower block, upright, 5-10.
Barell length breach to end, 351/4, 333/4 reciever to end.
Barrel stamped with letter P left side at first barrel band.
Front Fore stock has metal end and is 29" long. Rear stock has metal butt plate, one screw on tang. Rear sight folds down to rear. No bayonet lug. Wood is walnut. Three barrel bands have crown on side. Any information would be most helpfull.
tejn

Post by tejn »

None of the information you provide has any bearing on the caliber of the rifle. To determine the caliber I would suggest obtaining a muzzle-loading round ball larger than your bore diameter. Oil the bore and the round ball. Push the round ball through the bore with a wooden dowel. Mike the ball to determine caliber. To determine cartridge you will need to make a chamber cast. Flowers of sulfer can be used (obtained from a drug store) but it is rather rude to melt indoors. Cerrosafe obtained from Brownells works much better. The vast majority of large-framed rolling blocks were chambered for the 11mm Spanish caliber. Unfortunately, lots of these were "converted" to 11mm Mannlicher and not marked as a conversion. The only way to tell what cartridge it takes is with a chamber cast. A gunsmith can do all of the above for you.
Good luck!!!
Roy Marcot
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Another mystery gun

Post by Roy Marcot »

Dear Hopeless,

Best if you would send a picture to the RSA web master, who will post it along with your inquiry. Sounds as if you may have a rolling block military rifle, but good quality pictures should clear much of the mystery up.

Most of these rifles were chambered for the .43 Spanish centerfire cartridge. A lesser number were chambered for the .50-70 Govt centerfire cartridge. Other chamberings are known, but more than 95% of all Remington rolling block military rifles and carbines were chambered for these two cartridges. Good photos will help us unravel the mystery.

Respectfully,

Roy Marcot
remington Historian
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