Remington 1894 1900 shotgun screws

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Walz
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Remington 1894 1900 shotgun screws

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I'm restoring a Remington 1894 1900 shotgun and all screws that fits the exterior receiver are buggered up by some moron.

I am restoring the shotgun and short of manufacturing the screws, which would take a lot of time, I'm looking for the source of screws. Also I need the lever spring. Anyone here have some parts?

I have tried Numrich, Weisner, CFN parts, Schulder shots with zero results. If someone here is able to give me some real source of good information I would appreciate that. I don't have time to mess around.

Email me at: david@wasillalocksmith.com

Thanks

David Walz
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Try Shotgun Jake at 330-669-2138. He makes screws etc for most models. He may also have top lever spring but they're usually available on eBay for $25 - 30 or so.

Enjoy
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dieNusse1 wrote:Try Shotgun Jake at 330-669-2138. He makes screws etc for most models. He may also have top lever spring but they're usually available on eBay for $25 - 30 or so.

Enjoy
I will check him out, thanks for the great lead. I have a eBay favorite for the Remington 1900 and I am checking it daily.

Thanks
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:shock: Wow, this must be a rare animal, no information on this one.

:?: Maybe someone has access to a video, posting that shows the takedown/assembly procedure for this.

Seems I find the firearms that are obsolete and information is scarce. :shock:
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dieNusse1 wrote:Try Shotgun Jake at 330-669-2138. He makes screws etc for most models. He may also have top lever spring but they're usually available on eBay for $25 - 30 or so.

Enjoy

Made contact, and he has them, thanks for your help. I guess no one else knows about this rare firearm, again thanks. :D
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What exactly is a 1894 1900 ? It's one or the other.
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I've ordered the new furniture, since the stock was missing pieces, and the forearm had some nasty holes in it from age, not drilling holes. The new furniture is walnut, and I am going to use the antique stain made for firearms, not the Home Depot special. :)

The sealer, and finish is going to take awhile, since it has to dry completely before I can work on it. This is not a weekend project, it will take time to do, I want a really nice finish, the woodworking fit and finish takes up to a week. I don't know about checkering the wood, however, it's just started and I have plenty of time to get the details finished. :mrgreen:

As for the barrel and receiver, everything is in good shape, the barrels are tight, and the lock up is tight. Now I have talked to a guy who knows his stuff and I will be able to get the buggered screws replaced. I am waiting for the parts to come back so I can start cleaning up everything. That cleaning will take a long time, since the barrels are going to be cleaned by hand, being careful not to disturb them, losing the cartouche, lines, is not going to happen. :!:

All of the internal parts are rust free, so they just need good cleaning to remove the crusted crap. I've been told that the trigger springs are a PITA to reinstall, however I'm not there yet, that's a ways off.

So now I'm just doing research on the Remington 1900 shotgun, and I have accumulated quite a bit of research. I think this will be a enjoyable project, from being in a attic, then a wooden box, in a garage, with a dirt floor, to a full professional restoration. I'm not talking any chances, all of the parts are complete, but if I make a mistake the replacement parts are impossible to find, so everything is going to be slow and methodical. :D
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I'm sorry you took my comment the way you did. There is no such thing as a 1894 1900. They are two different models. One was introduced in 1894, the other in 1900 , and they are different. Are the screws the same for both? Hell, I don't know. But perhaps in the future you could say exactly what model you have. Have a good day. Paul
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paul harm wrote:I'm sorry you took my comment the way you did. There is no such thing as a 1894 1900. They are two different models. One was introduced in 1894, the other in 1900 , and they are different. Are the screws the same for both? Hell, I don't know. But perhaps in the future you could say exactly what model you have. Have a good day. Paul

:( Unless you know for sure what you are talking about, don't interject anything, as you said you don't know so it is what it is, and this takes my time up to explain it.

:cry: As it is, im going to have to manufacture my own s crews since I can't find good ones, seems that people don't know a screwdriver from a gunsmith screwdriver a damaged all of the heads on the firearm. On top of that, I have to figure out the direction of the screw slot head so it's pointing correctly with the firearm orientation.

:? In fact, the 1894 and the 1900 are almost exact, the 1894 is the Lincoln LS and the 1900 is the Ford Fiesta. The, stock, lower tang, screws, receiver, internal parts, some of the forearm, some of the barrels will interchange, however I was only talking about screws, and they do interchange. Read up on the firearm to understand what's going on, it's not a "new" firearm that has been cookie cutter, made of cheap plastic parts with the fit and finish that looks like crap. This is a Remington masterpiece, made by hand by true artisans over 100 years ago. The firearm has only one internal part that needs replacing. Today's firearms are junk.
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:mrgreen: I have much more, but you get the picture, I am good at what I do, because I research every firearm that I own. I know everything about that specific firearm all 50+ of them.
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Then you better do a little more research. There were large and small frame guns and the barrels or hammers won't interchange, and there is right and left hand hammers.They also switched from firing pins on the hammers to separate firing pins. There were 41,194 1984's made and 98,508 1900's made, so no, they're not so rare. There are other differences, but you seem to already know all that and I don't. Guess I better bone up a little more about Remington SxS's, I only own a 1873, 1882, 1889 and five 1894's - a A, B,C, and two F grades and have shot them for over 15 years. No one knows everything and I'm also learning. I misunderstood your post and you could have said the screws are the same for a 1894 or a 1900 and I would have said you're right, I'm sorry I misread your post, but instead you went on a rant. I could add you seem to be about the rudest person to post on this forum, but that wouldn't be nice. Paul
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Paul -- nice reply. In addition to those you cited I'll just add a couple more differences that I've observed over the past 45 years that I'm sure Walz is aware. First, the forearm iron and forearm wood will NOT interchange. Unless of course you want to take the barrels AND forearm from one model and move it to an action body of the other model. This of course brings up the pesky issue of hand fitting the new barrels to the action body. But then will the rib match ---- ?

Second, the butt stocks are not quite the same. Speaking of the A grade 1894, it has 20 lpi checkering while all the 1900s have 18 lpi. While the stock may fit it may not be quite "correct". Speaking of the 1900 butt stocks -- there were three variations used during the years of production. Only one variation is "correct" for one made in 1901.

Lastly, there were three frame sizes used. 12 Ga standard, 12 Ga small plus 16 Ga. And of course there is one 20 Ga floating around out there and maybe a couple more.

BTW - there are other minor differences (e.g., 1 or 2 screw trigger guards, different sear lengths, flat or concave ribs, safety shapes etc.) but we all know what they are.

I've used Doug Turnbull in NY with excellent case colors. Great screws from Garland (slotted and unslotted).
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I bought a A grade 94 and the left barrel wouldn't fire. When cocked, the firing pin was almost flush with the receiver face. Talked the Brad Bachelder and he had some sears which I bought and installed and fixed the problem. He said something about short sears, but I wasn't sure if he meant they were made in different sizes or someone before me had worked on them making them shorter. You cleared it up - thanks. Also, when ordering a hammer from Garland, he explained a easy way of telling the difference between a large frame and small frame 94. The extended rib on a large frame gun will have two groves on the underside. The large frame takes a different hammer, and the hammers with the firing pin on them are right and left - they don't interchange. Did they make a 1894 or 1900 with separate firing pins ? Nice to know these little items.
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Paul -- beginning sometime during 1903 - 1905, i can't recall exact year and I'm too lazy to look it up, separate firing pins appeared. I guess that was an improvement but since I've not heard of a significant number of broken combined hammer/pin i really don't know. One problem with the separate pins is that they will sometimes stick out of the bolster face and hang up on the barrels as they float and aren't spring loaded.
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A great example of why to read and listen carefully first before making outlandish claims and insulting knowledgeable people.

Paul and dieNusse1, you have helped so many people on this board, including me, that I can't help but apologize on behalf of all who come here looking for help for this oaf's comments.
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