Remington Rolling Block Info

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Dougdsm
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Remington Rolling Block Info

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Can anyone help me identify this Remington ? It belonged to my father who tried to decipher it but got to many contradictions and I'm finding it confusing myself. The barrel I.D. is approx. 15/32", the barrel O.D. is approx. 11/16", the overall length is approx. 50 1'2", the barrel length is approx. 35". It has no bayonet mounting, it looks like it is nickel plated
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Dougdsm
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Your rifle has a Belgian made barrel. I am assuming that the action was made by Remington (it would be marked on the top tang unless the markings were removed if it was refinished). The lower tang is the same length as the upper tang but I would suspect that the #'s don't match on the left side of both tangs. IF the breech block has small "wings" on either side of the face instead of being flat I would guess that your rifle started out as a .58 cal. "transformed" rifle. They were sold around the world in the late 1800's but those sold to France for use during the Franco-Prussian War (1870-1871) were later made into more "modern" calibers by rebarreling in Belgium to 11mm Spanish (the 10.6 marking on the bottom of the barrel). The original transformed rifles had a lower tang longer than the upper tang. It was simple to swap out trigger guard assemblies of Rolling Blocks because of parts interchangeability. However, this would require the use of a more "modern" butt stock made for equal tangs. It is fairly common to see Rolling blocks that have non matching #'s on the tang sides.
The markings on the bottom of the barrel are Belgian proof and inspection/inspector markings.
Dougdsm
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So the 11mm Spanish is the same as .43 Spanish ?
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Yes, they are the same. Before investing in brass if you desire to shoot it you should have it checked by a gunsmith (standard disclaimer). You should also have a chamber cast made. The rifle is over 130 years old and a lot could have happened to it since. At one time 11mm Spanish ammo was scarce here and there was a glut of 11mm Mannlicher ammo. Some dealers ran an 11mm Mannlicher chamber reamer into 11mm Spanish chambers so ammo could be sold with the rifles. The 1st Rolling Block carbine I bought at a gun show many years ago was advertised as 11mm Spanish. When I got home an 11mm Spanish cartridge wallowed around in the chamber. It had been reamed out.
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Here are some more pics, hope these help ? No, currently I do not plan to shoot it. I want to leave it just as my dad left it to me. I was just curious about the ammo size
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Re: Remington Rolling Block Info

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Both "tangs" are the same size, and you are correct about the numbers being different
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