KM Receivers
KM Receivers
What is the latest info on the KM marked receivers? I'm new to the forum and can not find information on past posts using search. I have a carbine with a KM marked receiver and hammer, FCW inspector marked forearm, serial 7235 on the barrel, chambered in 50-45. Is this just a Bannerman's special?
Re: KM Receivers
Your barrel and forestock are from a Navy M1867 Remington carbine. We would need to see some photos to comment on the frame/breech, to include a photo looking into the open breech. What are the markings on the top tang?
Re: KM Receivers
Here are some photos of the 1867 Navy Carbine, they were not marked with KM on the receivers.
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Photo showing the patent dates on the receiver.
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Here is a post from George Layman from 2013, about KM marked rolling block rifles.
New Data Regarding the KM Marked Remington Rolling Block
Post by tanpatsu » Sat Nov 23, 2013 7:10 am
Some new information regarding the KM Remington rolling block rifles has surfaced. Recently observed was another KM marked variant in .43 Egyptian, however, this example was marked with Greek crowns on frame barrel, hammer, breechblock, and over stamped with the KM cartouche, partially exposing over half of the original crowns on the frame and barrel. Only the rear barrel band had its crown re stamped. A new theory is as follows; cosmetically both the Greek and Egyptian Model Remington rolling blocks are practically identical aside from markings, caliber and rear sight graduations. The original Greek contract specified some 13,500 rifles, however only 9.202 were shipped to France during the Franco Prussian War leaving 4,298 unaccounted for. With this most recent example appearing, it may be assumed that the small number of the KM marked rifles appearing time to time could well be those remaining .42 Berdan caliber Greek rifles(which caused a logistical nightmare) reamed out to .43 Egyptian, and earmarked for shipment to France during the short conflict. Some being shipped, and others perhaps not. Thus the yet unidentified KM mark could be an in house identification by Remington indicating such Greek Model rifles being re-reamed from .42 Berdan to the Egyptian cartridge. The owner in Costa Rica will attempt to obtain good photos and I shall then post them at a later date. This latest appearance is the first KM marked Remington I have viewed with remnants of a previous cartouche of any kind beneath it.
Best to All,
George Layman
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Matt
New Data Regarding the KM Marked Remington Rolling Block
Post by tanpatsu » Sat Nov 23, 2013 7:10 am
Some new information regarding the KM Remington rolling block rifles has surfaced. Recently observed was another KM marked variant in .43 Egyptian, however, this example was marked with Greek crowns on frame barrel, hammer, breechblock, and over stamped with the KM cartouche, partially exposing over half of the original crowns on the frame and barrel. Only the rear barrel band had its crown re stamped. A new theory is as follows; cosmetically both the Greek and Egyptian Model Remington rolling blocks are practically identical aside from markings, caliber and rear sight graduations. The original Greek contract specified some 13,500 rifles, however only 9.202 were shipped to France during the Franco Prussian War leaving 4,298 unaccounted for. With this most recent example appearing, it may be assumed that the small number of the KM marked rifles appearing time to time could well be those remaining .42 Berdan caliber Greek rifles(which caused a logistical nightmare) reamed out to .43 Egyptian, and earmarked for shipment to France during the short conflict. Some being shipped, and others perhaps not. Thus the yet unidentified KM mark could be an in house identification by Remington indicating such Greek Model rifles being re-reamed from .42 Berdan to the Egyptian cartridge. The owner in Costa Rica will attempt to obtain good photos and I shall then post them at a later date. This latest appearance is the first KM marked Remington I have viewed with remnants of a previous cartouche of any kind beneath it.
Best to All,
George Layman
Have a Good Day,
Matt
Re: KM Receivers
Here are some photos from the 2015 Gun Digest showing a KM marked rolling block rifle.
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Matt
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George Layman's analysis is based on the records of receipts that were published in Pierre Lorain's old book: 9202 rifles. The actual shipping records, from Remington, show that all 15,000 rifles on the Greek contract were sent to France.
So, we need a different answer on the KM rifles.
So, we need a different answer on the KM rifles.