Pre-1898 numbers and dates

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Northtexan
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Pre-1898 numbers and dates

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Thanks to the following:
Mike Strietbeck for dating my New Model Army
Rolling Block for finding my 1875 serial number (253)

I would like to date the following:
1875 Single Action .44 #253
Remington Double Derringer (UMC) #488

Thanks again,
Northtexan
ROLLING BLOCK
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Re: Pre-1898 numbers and dates

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Hi Northtexan, the 1875 was first produced in 1874 in 44 Remington serial # 1 to over 15800 about 1879 the 44-40 and 45 long colt calibres were added and the serial numbers went back to # 1 to over 1837. Given your serial number it would be reasonable to assume a manufacture date of 1879-80. As there is very little hard evidence on these firearms, this is only an estimate, but will be pretty close to the mark.
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ROLLING BLOCK wrote:Hi Northtexan, the 1875 was first produced in 1874 in 44 Remington serial # 1 to over 15800 about 1879 the 44-40 and 45 long colt calibres were added and the serial numbers went back to # 1 to over 1837. Given your serial number it would be reasonable to assume a manufacture date of 1879-80. As there is very little hard evidence on these firearms, this is only an estimate, but will be pretty close to the mark.


Rolling Block
I wonder if you misread my info. The caliber on the frame reads 44 not 44-40 and the number is 253. This sounds to me more like a date of 1874/75. Wouldn't you think so?
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Northtexan I apologise if I have made a mistake here. I assumed your pistol to be a later one due to the fact the early ones were not calibre marked as far as I am aware. I have two 1875s serial # 1021 and # 3780 no calibre mark on these. Just to confirm your pistol is an early one, Has it got a star stamped on the barrel just forward of receiver and an R on receiver, left side of gun and these marks are about one half inch apart. Also early ones had the pinched front sight ala 1858 wereas the later ones had a blade foresight. These details indentify the 44 Remington accurately. Any chance of a pic or two?.
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ROLLING BLOCK wrote:Northtexan I apologise if I have made a mistake here. I assumed your pistol to be a later one due to the fact the early ones were not calibre marked as far as I am aware. I have two 1875s serial # 1021 and # 3780 no calibre mark on these. Just to confirm your pistol is an early one, Has it got a star stamped on the barrel just forward of receiver and an R on receiver, left side of gun and these marks are about one half inch apart. Also early ones had the pinched front sight ala 1858 wereas the later ones had a blade foresight. These details indentify the 44 Remington accurately. Any chance of a pic or two?.
ROLLING BLOCK - No mark other than 44 on the left side of the frame between the barrel and the cylinder. The address on the barrel is: E REMINGTON & SONS ILION NY USA. The only other mark is the serial number under the grip.
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Hi Northtexan, I assume that you have tried a 44-40 in the chamber and it will not fit?. Has your pistol the small pinched foresight as the 1858 or new model percussion had, or is it a blade sight. This is really the only way I know for sure of identifying is as early or late. Having said that Roy Marcot states quite clearly that the Egyptian contract, which was the first 10,000 of these, were marked with the star and R as I described to you. I lok forward to hearing your reply to this post as you have me interested now.
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Hi Rolling Block.
I would like to send you photos but do not know how on this board. If you have email I can send jpegs easily. My email is: kc5rsi@charter.net.
Northtexan
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Hi Northtexan, have sent email and thought I would advise on this site in case you do not receive it.
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