Remington Rider Pocket Conversion
Remington Rider Pocket Conversion
I have a nickel plated engraved Remington Rider Pocket Conversion, double action, that I am researching and would welcome any help or advice. The first ones (1860) were black powder and had a "mushroom" cylinder for the percussion caps. Remington took some of them in and converted them to cartridge by replacing the cylinder and re-working the hammer. Then in 1863 or so they started releasing them as cartridge guns right out of the factory. I would like to know if there is a way to determine if this gun was converted or if it left the factory as an original cartridge gun. The one I have is approx 60-70% of original. The grips are GP or hard rubber depending on who you talk to. The really interesting thing about this gun is the serial number. It's "1". I'm interested about any opinions about that as well. The cylinder is numbered 757 and the cartridge retainer is numbered "757" on one side and across is numbered "1" with a bit of a mis-strike. Is anyone familiar with this firearm?
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topshot; IMHO....It does appear that you truly have sn 1. It would have been made as a percussion model indicated by the capping groove on the right side. Later converted to cartridge, cylinder and plate number 757, with a 1 indicating they were made for this gun, sn #1.
Later models made for cartridges, lacked the capping groove.
Robert Ball's book Remington Firearms, pictures the exact engraving style that yours has on page 33, serial number 19. So, most likely factory. ....Jim
Later models made for cartridges, lacked the capping groove.
Robert Ball's book Remington Firearms, pictures the exact engraving style that yours has on page 33, serial number 19. So, most likely factory. ....Jim
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Thanks for the info. I am still investigating these revolvers. Is there any point in contacting Remington for any information they might have?
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Here are the pictures of the cylinder and cap. I hope.
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Topshot; Remington is a waist of time, more info here with the experts.
I have 2 of those models, both later versions, no cap groves. Both near mint, "conversion" cylinder and ring have matching numbers, but, both are different from the serial numbers on the gun. So. it appears Remington, as with there other models, payed no attention to serial numbers and cylinder numbers matching.......Jim
I have 2 of those models, both later versions, no cap groves. Both near mint, "conversion" cylinder and ring have matching numbers, but, both are different from the serial numbers on the gun. So. it appears Remington, as with there other models, payed no attention to serial numbers and cylinder numbers matching.......Jim